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This best practice guidance.

It seems fairly clear to me up here in God's country that we'd have to lower our standards to meet best practice.

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But Carlisle is unrestricted, and that's best practice, innit?

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On the contrary, I would say that our manors are very similar, the only reason they look different is because of the different regulatory courses taken by our respective councils.


So you have 1000+ vehicles licenced as HC?

Also how cn you state that it is the blame of the course taken by the council, Gateshead is still deregulated ................. the issuance of HC licenses has only been suspended.

Even during the time that HC licenses were available PH numbers increased.

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And are you trying to say that there are no HCs in Gateshead doing pre-booked work?


No I'm certainly not, quite the contrary.

What I said was that HC owner drivers and jockies are forced to work from PH operators because of the lack of work from the ranks and streets.

Small co-operatives of drivers are also getting together to seek pre-booked work.

None of the HC drivers that I know prefer to do pre-booked work due to the complications that can occur, those that do (or did) have got rid of their expensive WAV and re-licensed PH in a much cheaper to run saloon.

BTW does your council insist on a WAV ............. or do you have total choice of vehicle?

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This best practice guidance.

It seems fairly clear to me up here in God's country that we'd have to lower our standards to meet best practice.

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I could not agree more, increasing the number of vehicles makes high standards unviable.

After all if everyone is able to put a HC on the road, would you really be able to afford to by a £24,000 VW Caravelle, a £24,000 E7 or a £30,000 TX4 when someone you are competing against could go out and buy a £1500 FX4.

I know that you can pick up something decent for less than the new cost ............. but are you then saying that "the best" taxi on your fleet isn't the best that is available.

The professional trade should be pushing to attain the highest possible standards of customer service .......... and that extends to more than the length of time someone should wait for a HC on a weekend night.

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On the contrary, I would say that our manors are very similar, the only reason they look different is because of the different regulatory courses taken by our respective councils.


So you have 1000+ vehicles licenced as HC?

Also how cn you state that it is the blame of the course taken by the council, Gateshead is still deregulated ................. the issuance of HC licenses has only been suspended.

Even during the time that HC licenses were available PH numbers increased.

B. Lucky :D


Well obviously I don't mean that numbers are the same, I mean that the principles involved are the same.

But as regards the PH numbers increasing, isn't this because only WAVs can get a hackney plate?

From what I've seen of the trade if PH could choose to do street work if they were given the option then they'll take it.

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No I'm certainly not, quite the contrary.

What I said was that HC owner drivers and jockies are forced to work from PH operators because of the lack of work from the ranks and streets.

Small co-operatives of drivers are also getting together to seek pre-booked work.

None of the HC drivers that I know prefer to do pre-booked work due to the complications that can occur, those that do (or did) have got rid of their expensive WAV and re-licensed PH in a much cheaper to run saloon.


Well, yes, that's all very well and indeed self-evident to those in the trade, but the point is surely that just because some drivers want to work a certain way does this mean that they should be able to do so yet tell other drivers how they work - it's the good old 'do as I say, not as I do', innit?

I don't like pre-booked work either, so I choose to work the ranks, but I won't deny the other drivers the choice to do what they want, since I'd otherwise by a hypocrite.

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BTW does your council insist on a WAV ............. or do you have total choice of vehicle?


No, anything goes, that's why no one sees the need to run a PH.

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This best practice guidance.

It seems fairly clear to me up here in God's country that we'd have to lower our standards to meet best practice.

CC


I could not agree more, increasing the number of vehicles makes high standards unviable.

After all if everyone is able to put a HC on the road, would you really be able to afford to by a £24,000 VW Caravelle, a £24,000 E7 or a £30,000 TX4 when someone you are competing against could go out and buy a £1500 FX4.

I know that you can pick up something decent for less than the new cost ............. but are you then saying that "the best" taxi on your fleet isn't the best that is available.

The professional trade should be pushing to attain the highest possible standards of customer service .......... and that extends to more than the length of time someone should wait for a HC on a weekend night.

B. Lucky :D


So there are plenty £1,500 FX4s in Blackpool, yet the plates are worth £40k? Yes, there's more to a good service than waiting times, but to suggest that there's a link with restricted taxi numbers is eyewash.

So shouldn't the key to competing against others not be to tighten up on standards thus keeping numbers in check thus a level playing field? Indeed, isn't this what you were advocating in Gateshead.

And, it's a bit rich (as usual) to complain about unfair competition when you have persistently advocated restricted numbers :lol:

As you correctly say, there's more than one aspect to a good service, but there's more than one aspect to fair trading as well. :D

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One thing you notice in Blackpool is the lack of rank space and how closely packed the town really is, plus the fact that it is also seasonal ,

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Wasn't it a Blackpool SUD report a couple of years ago that said that numerous ranks should be closed because the taxis wouldn't use them.

Clearly they prefer huddling together like sheep on a windy day.

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But Carlisle is unrestricted, and that's best practice, innit?


So we have selective best practice? pick the bits that suit?


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Wot you mean like you and the legislation? :lol:

But the point I was trying to make was that whereas your rather jocular implication was that Carlise was better than best practice my point was that you were delimited, thus that's best practice, you can't be better or worse than that - you're either delimited or you aren't.

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Wot you mean like you and the legislation?

But the point I was trying to make was that whereas your rather jocular implication was that Carlise was better than best practice my point was that you were delimited, thus that's best practice, you can't be better or worse than that - you're either delimited or you aren't.


So we have selective best practice? pick the bits that suit?


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DON'T SHOUT, I HEARD YOU FIRST TIME!

Well I haven't read the best practice guidance, but I gather that it's much like the first version, however I think it unlikely that I would be in total agreement with something as lengthy and wide ranging as this, particularly since I said at the time of the draft that it was a bit contradictory.

So if you're asking whether I'm 100% in accordance with the guidance then I would very much doubt it, but who is going to agreee with 100%?

But as regards restricted numbers, it's more of a black and white thing - you usually either agree with the concept or you don't. So I agree with the guidance on this, since there's no room for nuances on the concept of unrestricted numbers - you either agree or you don't, and I agree!

There's one exception to this, however, since if you're Captain Cab you agree sometimes and disagree at other times. :roll:

But that's still in accordance with what I said above, because you either have to agree or disagree, there's no inbetween :D

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Well I haven't read the best practice guidance


Well perhaps you should read it?

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