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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:46 pm 
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Thanks Captain what a fine bunch of lads with spine does that sily tart from goskills know of that ?
btw is there a big brain out there who knows what the final cost of this comedy will be ie total number of drivers in the land multiplied by the extortionate cost per course :?:


TBH dont be too harsh on GoSkills, they are at least trying to source funding........its the b*stards that get it who are the problem.

I think I wrote about the costs of training one time in taxitalk.....250,000 drivers @ £1800 each = £450,000,000

I think thats four hundred and fifty million pounds.

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so the 103 of us who got suspended for refusing do it in Bournemouth did nothing eh thanks


I'll have to read the case but I don't remember seeing there being 103 of you at court. There is more than one way to skin a rabbit and flatly refusing to take the course is just one of them, working with the providers to ensure that the course was appropriate is another. I also have my doubts as to whether your representation was giving it's all considering it was probably provided by a union that may have had a vested interest in the couse in the first place. It's was never my intention to undermine the efforts of these drivers and I'm sorry if that's how you took it

how much dosh have you managed to slurp from the trough toots ? :shock:


When I was training I was on £13.00 per hour. I have probably done more in unpaid work (to assist drivers) than I've actually earned. You don't know me very well at all lawman so please don't judge. As I have stated many times I believe in training for drivers but not the NVQ way. I think you should be asking the union reps how much they've slurped

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captain cab wrote:
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Thanks Captain what a fine bunch of lads with spine does that sily tart from goskills know of that ?
btw is there a big brain out there who knows what the final cost of this comedy will be ie total number of drivers in the land multiplied by the extortionate cost per course :?:


TBH dont be too harsh on GoSkills, they are at least trying to source funding........its the b*stards that get it who are the problem.

I think I wrote about the costs of training one time in taxitalk.....250,000 drivers @ £1800 each = £450,000,000

I think thats four hundred and fifty million pounds.

CC
Thanks again captain i suppose our money has to be wasted on something
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Thanks again captain i suppose our money has to be wasted on something
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A nice shiny new aircraft carrier or two would be nice :wink:

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Thanks again captain i suppose our money has to be wasted on something
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A nice shiny new aircraft carrier or two would be nice :wink:

CC

Nah surely chucking 1800 notes on an idiots course for a nearly retired taxi driver with 36 years experience is money far better spent :-|


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The interest is there because Bournemouth is held up like a beacon by the pro training lobby,

I've mentioned it before on here when one of the training leeches made a big thing about the way Bournemouth Council acted against some of their drivers.

In front of councillors, licensing officers, trade members and a few hangers on, I put the c*** right. :wink:

Nice one Sussex we needed you ere 6 years ago eusasmiles.zip


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The interest is there because Bournemouth is held up like a beacon by the pro training lobby,

I've mentioned it before on here when one of the training leeches made a big thing about the way Bournemouth Council acted against some of their drivers.

In front of councillors, licensing officers, trade members and a few hangers on, I put the c*** right. :wink:

Nice one Sussex we needed you ere 6 years ago eusasmiles.zip

Just for the record I was here 6 years ago. :shock:

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Sussex wrote:
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The interest is there because Bournemouth is held up like a beacon by the pro training lobby,

I've mentioned it before on here when one of the training leeches made a big thing about the way Bournemouth Council acted against some of their drivers.

In front of councillors, licensing officers, trade members and a few hangers on, I put the c*** right. :wink:

Nice one Sussex we needed you ere 6 years ago eusasmiles.zip

Just for the record I was here 6 years ago. :shock:

But sadly not here in sunny Bournemouth with us opressed souls :cry:


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yep theres no shortage of spivs down ere ready to sell us out
was there not a group of lads somewhere in the midlands who took their
**** council to court and won 5k each ? maybe we should their legal bloke
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It was Loughborough (Charnwood district)

The articles here;

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/news/Cabbies-want-exam-axed/article-1195608-detail/article.html

Taxi drivers want exam axed


Cabbies are calling for the scrapping of a rule that they must pass an exam before getting a licence.

Taxi drivers say they should not have to take the Btec in passenger transportation – a condition required by Charnwood Borough Council.

Three Loughborough drivers had their licences suspended in February for refusing to take the £120 course.

The council told all cabbies in 2006 they had three years to get the qualification, and made all new applicants take the course.

Zaher and Pyrarali Zamani and Martin Thornber were suspended when they refused and took the council to court.

A judge overturned their ban while awarding legal costs of more than £5,713 against the borough council.

After the hearing their solicitor, David Leigh, said: "They did not see any merit in paying £120 to take a course they did not think would make them any better at jobs they have years of experience doing.

"Having seen some of the questions that make up the exam, I am not surprised. They are ridiculously easy.

"One of my clients did not do the course but took the exam and got 100%. I think that tells you the value of the qualification. Anyone who doesn't pass this is not fit for anything, let alone driving a cab."

Only Charnwood and Bournemouth borough councils have made it compulsory for drivers to have the Btec.

Mr Leigh said: "Councils are hardly queuing up to follow their lead, probably because it is pointless and unpopular. Some 400 cabbies in Charnwood have, however, had to pay out £120."

The suspension of the three drivers was put on hold while the appeal was being sorted and they can now carry on driving without the threat of being forced from their jobs.

Zaher Zamani, of A1 Taxis in Loughborough, said: "I'm glad the judge supported our position. We should never have been suspended and we should never have had to come to court."

Noel Bertram, spokesman for Charnwood Taxi Association, has passed the exam but believes it is not needed. He said: "In most cases it's teaching grandma to suck eggs and it's about time the council dropped this."

Council licensing manager Malcolm Burton said: "The policy isn't changing and it won't be changing.

"The judge did not attack the policy. He made his ruling on whether it was right to suspend the three drivers. We are taking legal advice on whether to appeal against his decision.

"Drivers who take the Btec learn very valuable things like how to manage disabled customers properly.

''It is helpful and we think the public needs to know drivers have a certain standard of professionalism.

"I can't say much about the questions. We don't set them. They are written by the trade for the trade."

Leicester taxi drivers do not have to pass any exams to get a licence but more than 130 have voluntarily taken an NVQ2 in road passenger vehicle driving.


Sent this to our LA and they decided not to adopt any of these courses....
I wonder why?? :mrgreen:


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/8499792.stm

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/cumbria-university-staff-launch-campaign-to-save-jobs-and-stop-campus-closure-1.673883?referrerPath=home

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/university-of-cumbria-to-axe-60-courses-in-effort-to-overcome-20-million-deficit-1.677625?referrerPath=2.880/home

I think there's more important things to spend money on than cab driver training.

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The strange thing about training requirements for any vocation is they don't go away they just end up with no funding available hence the person requiring the training has to pay for it themselves. All the more reason to ensure that the training people are paying for is relevant

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Good Morning All,

I am representative for the SPS group, We are a NATION WIDE provider for the Level 2 Road Passenger Vehicle Driving QCF.

Yes the funding for the qualification has depleted since it was first introduced and in 2011 the funding was withdrawn for part of the year as the amount left in the 'FUNDING' pot was re-assessed, it is also likely to happen again this year at the end of the funders financial year.

However due to SPS's success rate we are still a leading provider in this qualification with FULL FUNDING avaliable.

If you would like more information or to sign up for thee NVQ please contact Kelly on 0115 963 3333 ext 129.

Please note this NVQ is not mandatory unless it has been advised as applicable by your council.


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Waste of time effort and money.

This is like the A4E carry on, just legalised robbery!!!! The government is stealing our cash and giving it to bodies that take millions from the education pot, who attempt to teach people how to suck eggs.


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Waste of time effort and money.

This is like the A4E carry on, just legalised robbery!!!! The government is stealing our cash and giving it to bodies that take millions from the education pot, who attempt to teach people how to suck eggs.


The NVQ is not supposed to teach or train ffs how many times do you need to be told, it's not a training course

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Good Morning All,

I am representative for the SPS group, We are a NATION WIDE provider for the Level 2 Road Passenger Vehicle Driving QCF.

Yes the funding for the qualification has depleted since it was first introduced and in 2011 the funding was withdrawn for part of the year as the amount left in the 'FUNDING' pot was re-assessed, it is also likely to happen again this year at the end of the funders financial year.

However due to SPS's success rate we are still a leading provider in this qualification with FULL FUNDING avaliable.

If you would like more information or to sign up for thee NVQ please contact Kelly on 0115 963 3333 ext 129.

Please note this NVQ is not mandatory unless it has been advised as applicable by your council.


Is it your company that use scare tatics in advertising to get candidates to sign up before the funding runs out?

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