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Yeah, but what type of quality controls. I ask cos I think these need to at least be a thought before you de-restrict


Dont expect a straight answer

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Wayne Casey, you truly are an odious and disgusting person.

You think rape is reasonable, you insist on sexual epithets - You are so fixated with sex I suggest you represent a real danger to the public.

How come you never matured?

DSo your wife and kids know you write this shecht?

Or are you still in the closet?



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I'm quite mature thank you, and mature enough to see through you.

You are using rape to further your aims, thats truly disgusting.

You and your lover are the ones who mention rape at every possible opportunity, I think you are the one with a fixation and seriously wonder about your mental state.

CC


You are a child Wayne.

The reapes happened. Not through anything I did, but because our counciul, charged with protecting the public, is protecting vsted interests instead.

This is outrageous.

I'm working to minimise the potential for rapes to happen in the future.

You think rape is reasonable just so long as the greedos little interests aren't affected.

That's despicable.

Now grow up.

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You are a child Wayne.

The reapes happened. Not through anything I did, but because our counciul, charged with protecting the public, is protecting vsted interests instead.

This is outrageous.

I'm working to minimise the potential for rapes to happen in the future.

You think rape is reasonable just so long as the greedos little interests aren't affected.

That's despicable.

Now grow up.


Your entitled to your opinion, it isnt shared by anyone else, so you're on your own there.

You think rape is a by product of regulated numbers (thats a good expression you should take note and use it in the future). I dont, I think rape happens in both regulated and deregulated areas, irrespective of taxi numbers.

As I have written before, but you appear to be a little stupid and dont take advice, get evidence. Get evidence that supports your claim.

This should be easy for a person such as yourself.

My theory is that you have no evidence, otherwise you would have presented it on here and told everyone how wrong both I and others have been.

Now, f*ck off and do something you auld crank.

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toots wrote:
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What's so complicated with a qualified driver having unfettered access to the tools of his trade?


So what would make a new driver qualified?


Quality controls designed to ensure that the trade's professionalism is invested in the driver.

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Yeah, but what type of quality controls. I ask cos I think these need to at least be a thought before you de-restrict


Knowledge of the area
First Aid supported by full third party insurance
Real Customer care
Advanced driving skills with passenger handling
Regular vehicle condition assessments between inspections
Communication skills and standards

Oh, and an IQ test to ensure that customers aren't faced with some of the dimwits like you toots, CC and Dougie who post inane drivel on these forums

:lol:

And that's just for starters. :wink:

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captain cab wrote:
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You are a child Wayne.

The reapes happened. Not through anything I did, but because our counciul, charged with protecting the public, is protecting vsted interests instead.

This is outrageous.

I'm working to minimise the potential for rapes to happen in the future.

You think rape is reasonable just so long as the greedos little interests aren't affected.

That's despicable.

Now grow up.


Your entitled to your opinion, it isnt shared by anyone else, so you're on your own there.

You think rape is a by product of regulated numbers (thats a good expression you should take note and use it in the future). I dont, I think rape happens in both regulated and deregulated areas, irrespective of taxi numbers.

As I have written before, but you appear to be a little stupid and dont take advice, get evidence. Get evidence that supports your claim.

This should be easy for a person such as yourself.

My theory is that you have no evidence, otherwise you would have presented it on here and told everyone how wrong both I and others have been.

Now, f*ck off and do something you auld crank.

CC


You see that's you're problem CC. You may read the words but you have a childish inability to comprehend.

What I've said, many times is that no council can claim to be protecting public safety unless and until it has done everything it can to protect public safety. Limiting taxis, making it more difficult to hail one, falls well below this benchmark.

I have NEVER claimed that rape is a byproduct of restriction. Anyone with half a wit would realise this. But you are witless. A stupic, myopic cretin who0 just sees what he wants to see.

As I said, grow up.

If you want to debate, at least try to ensure you read the information you can't bring yourself to understand before you put your gob in gear.

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You see that's you're problem CC. You may read the words but you have a childish inability to comprehend.

What I've said, many times is that no council can claim to be protecting public safety unless and until it has done everything it can to protect public safety. Limiting taxis, making it more difficult to hail one, falls well below this benchmark.

I have NEVER claimed that rape is a byproduct of restriction. Anyone with half a wit would realise this. But you are witless. A stupic, myopic cretin who0 just sees what he wants to see.

As I said, grow up.

If you want to debate, at least try to ensure you read the information you can't bring yourself to understand before you put your gob in gear.

:roll:


As I said, f*ck off.

:D

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In fact I think Mr Casey is a bit closer to the truth than your own portrayal.

As I recall it the number of medallions/plates had been static since around the second world war and they were trading at up to half a million dollars each.

New York city was broke, so the Mayor (who I think was billionare Michael Bloomberg) thought it would be a good idea to raise money for city coffers by issuing a few more plates, taking care, of course, that their value wasn't overly diluted by issuing too many.

Thus in essence it's no different from Edinburgh, except that there could be no windfall profit from the new issues, but the vast majority of medallions were issued for 'free' initially, and both they and the new issues continued to increase in value, so licence holders could still profiteer.

There are probably a couple of reasons for the perhaps greater propensity for absentees (eg the rich widows) to hold medallions in New York as compared to the plates here.

First, the market in medallions is more legitimate and indeed they're often portrayed as an investment like stocks and shares, gilts, metals and other commodities. Compare that to the grey market (at best) in Scottish plates, and the fact that derestriction is more of a risk and thus it's more like a junk bond than a gilt-edged security.

Second, as compared to the more legitimate market in plates in England, I think the medallion can be held without operating a vehicle, thus encouraging outsiders.

Of course, there's nothing to stop absentees in the UK since even though they may operate a vehicle their connection with the trade can be tenuous at best (they could live abroad, for example) and there's certainly no obligation to actually drive a taxi, and there's always the more illegitimate aspects of the UK market to consider, such as the illegally hired plates in York and elsewhere.


I think thats an excellent summary.

CC


So how does this sit with the requirement that licensing is not for profit and fees should only cover the cost of licensing?

LAs don't have the legal authority to raise money from licensing, any form of licensing.

Indeed, some years ago a surplus built up in Edinburgh's taxi licensing which the council repaid to licence holders through a restriction in fees.

Dougie's aspiration of a medallion system is a non-starter.

Once again he's living in fantasy land. But there again, that's what we've come to expect from him.

He's another one who needs to grow up :roll:

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You see that's you're problem CC. You may read the words but you have a childish inability to comprehend.

What I've said, many times is that no council can claim to be protecting public safety unless and until it has done everything it can to protect public safety. Limiting taxis, making it more difficult to hail one, falls well below this benchmark.

I have NEVER claimed that rape is a byproduct of restriction. Anyone with half a wit would realise this. But you are witless. A stupic, myopic cretin who0 just sees what he wants to see.

As I said, grow up.

If you want to debate, at least try to ensure you read the information you can't bring yourself to understand before you put your gob in gear.

:roll:


As I said, f*ck off.

:D

CC


No answer, just another discharge from the gutter.

You do yourself no favours CC.

Anyone considering the post and your response can easily make their own mind up.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And there's you pretending to represent others CC :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Medallion Prices

Why a value to a license?

Taxicab licenses first gained value after World War II as demand for taxi service grew while the number of cabs was capped. The continuing limit has produced values of over $350,000, paid by a buyer when the license is transferred from one owner to another.

These license transfers are often called “medallion” transfers, referring to the painted aluminum medallion, signifying a taxi license, which is affixed
to the hood of every yellow medallion cab.

Medallion systems in other cities have also generated large medallion values in the range of $50,000 to over $200,000 in Boston, Chicago and Philadelphia. Medallion values are established on the open market between buyers and sellers, although the Taxi and Limousine Commission must approve the new owner’s qualifications. In economic terms, the value of medallion licenses is the “monopoly profit” produced by the limitation on the number of taxicabs, or in other words, the profit that owners can earn in the taxi industry that is greater than profits in comparable industries.

Medallion prices thus reflect net revenues derived from taxi operations.

Changes in prices reflect, fundamentally, changes in the demand for taxicab service relative to supply. But medallion prices are also affected by a variety of other factors. For example, falling interest rates and longer amortization schedules for loans used to finance buyers’ purchases have contributed to the escalation of medallion values because purchasers are more sensitive to their monthly “nut” or loan payments than to the size of the loan. Fares can also affect medallion values, as can the availability of drivers.

Driver shortages were one reason for the decline in medallion prices in 1998-2001.

Other factors affecting medallion prices include the number of potential buyers, expectations of future revenue and lease fee caps.

Medallion values are computed separately for individually owned and fleet-owned (or “corporate”) cabs. Licenses are permanently assigned to one of these categories.

Trends in medallion prices

• Medallion values show a very strong upward trend over the past half-century, fueled by growing demand for taxicab services and other factors such as longer loan terms and the introduction of leasing. Medallion values reached $25,000 in 1963, $50,000 in 1977, $100,000 in 1986 and $200,000 in 1994 and $300,000 in 2004.

• Medallion prices increased to $379,000 for corporate and $336,000 for individual licenses in 2005.

• Values have also experienced significant declines. Taxicab ridership fell sharply in the early 1970s as New York City went through a deep economic contraction. Medallion prices fell again during recessions in the early 1980s and early 1990s.

• Medallion prices also declined between the spring of 1998 and mid-2001. This decline, which preceded the economic slowdown in New York City, appeared to stem from factors internal to the taxi industry such as shortages of drivers. As unemployment rose during the recession that began a few months before the Sept. 2001 terrorist attacks, the number of drivers coming into the taxi industry increased. This was one factor in the increase in medallion values that began in the fall of 2001.

• Another factor was lower interest rates, which much like a home mortgage increases the price that buyers can afford to pay for medallion licenses. Interest rates on typical loans dropped to 5-6% in mid-2003, amortized over 15 years or more (albeit with a balloon payment due after 3-5 years).

• Declining interest rates and longer loan terms have meant that monthly loan payments stayed constant despite large increases in medallion prices. Since the early 1990s, interest rates declined from 10% or more to about 5% and loan amortization schedules stretched from 10 years to 15 years. As a result, monthly payments on medallion loans were the same or slightly less in mid-2003 as in 1993 despite a 50% increase in the price of individual medallions and 43% increase in the corporate price. (Monthly payments were typically about $1,500 for individual medallions and $3,500 for two corporate medallions as of mid-2003,
for buyers who borrow 80% of the combined medallion price and transaction fees, including the 5% City transfer tax.)

• The volume of medallion sales has fallen sharply. In the 1980s transfer volumes exceeded 600 annually for both individual and corporate medallions. Transfers dropped to an average of 250 for both individual and corporate medallions in the 1990s, and declined to 199 individual sales and 64 corporate sales in 2005 (not including stock transfers).

Corporate versus individual prices

• In the 1970s and early 1980s, individual owner-driving was a more attractive method of taxi operation, dominating the industry and reflected in higher medallion prices for individual licenses.

• Since the late 1980s, however, an increasing number of taxicabs have been leased out of large fleets, and the fleet or “corporate” price overtook the individual price.

• The substantial difference in price between corporate and individual narrowed sharply in 2001 as the industry experienced a driver shortage, the effects of the Sept. 2001 terrorist attacks and the city’s overall economic downturn.

The gap has widened somewhat since 2001, however.

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http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14229

You must think people are stupid Mr Taylor.

The above thread you stared is titled;

CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted

You have just wrote, the following;

I have NEVER claimed that rape is a byproduct of restriction

You are a liar or delusional if you think you havent alluded to the above.

Now, what was I saying?

Thats right....f*ck off.

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Youy're not the brightest candle in the box, are you CC?

Two things happened. Best practice was ignored. Two lassies were raped/assaulted.

One is not necessarily a consequence of the other, just two things that happened. De-resrcition would not eliminate rapes therefore rapes are not a product of resriction, which I have NEVER claimed.

Rapes are only ever, and can only be, a product of wrongdoing by despicable and violent individuals.

Rapes happen in both restricted and de-restricted areas.

Back to what I said, "no council can claim to be protecting public safety unless and until it has done everything it can to protect public safety. Limiting taxis, making it more difficult to hail one, falls well below this benchmark. "

Limiting taxi numbers doesn't cause rapes to happen, simply fosters a condition which makes them possible to happen, a fact recognised in the Best Practice Guide itself.

It was you who stated clearly that rape is reasonable, not me. I think it is appalling.

I'm working to minimise the potential for rapes to happen, not eliminate them entirely - which I don't have the power to do.

You're losing it Wayne. You're definitely losing. Your mentl instability is becoming just as obvious as Dougie's.

BTW Wayne, You should have written, "you have just written", NOT "you have just wrote".

Of course, when you write your drivel for the taxi talk rag you'll have an office junior checking your grammar for you. :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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There's only you who actually believes that, everyone else on this forum is aware of what you were alluding to.

Admittedly, most of the forum members are now ignoring you, presumably because of the abuse you and your cohorts give to anyone of a different view.

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Of course, when you write your drivel for the taxi talk rag you'll have an office junior checking your grammar for you. :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah, about time for another Edinburgh article and a pat on the back for Edinburgh council I think :D :D :D

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Yeah but nobody reads the rag anyway.

I can't imagine why advertisers would want to be associated with a d*ckhead who thinks lassies being raped is reasonable.

Just make sure you run your drivel past the office junior Wayne :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Yeah but nobody reads the rag anyway.

I can't imagine why advertisers would want to be associated with a d*ckhead who thinks lassies being raped is reasonable.

Just make sure you run your drivel past the office junior Wayne :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


pmsl.....and now who's resorted to the language of the gutter, what was it 'myopic cretin'.....I didn't add the word 'stupic' because you spelled that one wrong.

Strange how popular Taxitalk is in Edinburgh though, particularly when you get a mention.

Best Wishes

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