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hahaha i think you will find that arrogant statement is why a growing number of people living in Scotland want independence and if that's your argument for the union then i am sorry to say the gemmes up the pollie

that's reality .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOa64BUV5qU SCOTLAND'S STORY a Scotland i am proud of

We have a Tory led Westminster government yet we have more pandas in Scotland than Tory MPs thats not democracy . I too want more democracy and fairness than there is now and that's what a independent Scotland will deliver .

Look Tone I'm no fan of any politician, but compared to the EU the UK has to be viewed favourably, which is why you ignore my point and instead accuse me of arrogance. Perhaps you're the arrogant one in completely ignoring the UK v EU comparison.

In my younger days I was a big fan of the EU and the euro as well, but over the years I've come to realise that it's all idealism that doesn't quite work in practice.

I doubt if Scottish independence will make much difference to me personally, but from where I'm standing it's all idealism that may or may not work. At least with the UK you know where you are - better the devil you know.



So what are you trying to say - that Scotland in the UN would have even less influence than it would have had at the end of WWII, which would have been just about nil?

Anyway, the UN is just a talking shop, but where sovereignty really matters - in the EU, most obviously - Scotland would just be steamrollered by the likes of France and Germany.

The EU is increasingly moving towards a US of Europe or a EUSSR, so if you want Scotland to be truly independent then Alex Salmond and the SNP are going completely in the wrong direction.




Yes, not bad tune and I quite like the Proclaimers, but fine sentiments in a song have nothing to do with the real world. If that kind of thing is the source of your political inspiration then that's the sort of thing that worries me

I've mentioned this before in this thread, and will repeat it.

Get on with the vote FFS.

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Which would be worse than being steamrollered by England, because........?

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Trouble is that Salmond is running scared at the moment, because he knows he'd lose.

A union imposed against the will of the Scottish people, and, on occasion, maintained at the point of a gun.

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Gus your attitude was made obvious the other day when you said "anyone but England", or whatever.

But back in the rational real world, Scotland self-evidently has more clout in the UK context than it ever would in Europe.

For example, would you rather have interest rates set by the Bank of England in London primarily for the SE of England or interest rates set by the European Central Bank in Frankfurt primarily for the needs of the German economy?

Well of course your answer to that is obvious in view of the above, but that's why Ireland's economic situation is worse than it could have been - it was subject to interest rates set for Germany's healthy economy when its own economy was on its knees.

Of course, Salmond has worked that bit out now anyway, for this week at least

Yes, that was three hundred years ago.

So presumably Hitler means that you won't support the SNP's 'independence in Europe' aim?

I don't know, can the English vote to get rid of them?

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Why not interest rates set in Edinburgh, primarily for the Scottish economy?

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Hitler didn't subjugate this country by force, despite a good try, I might add.
The English did, and I have no doubt would do so again, if it suited English interests.

I don't quite take your point, are you saying that a country should only join a union which is dominated by countries which have previously conquered them?
That being the case, England should wholeheartedly join the US of E, since most of their potential partners have invaded and occupied them at one time or another

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Indeed, and that's what you should ask Alex Salmond, since a few years ago he wanted to join the eurozone, while more recently he's saying that Scotland would retain sterling with a view to adopting the euro at some time in the future.

So much for 'independence' - either the pound or the euro, with interest rates set in either London or Frankfurt

Of course the Scottish love of pandas is well noted, presumably thats why so many scottish woman end up on a Sunday morning looking like them. Breeding habits too, the world of the Panda is considerably less violent, and the have a longer life expectancy.

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Salmond, Sturgeon and MacAskill, aren't representing the people of Scotland, their interest lies in representing those who own Scotland, same-old [edited by admin], different day.


Yeah voting for independence will mean a lot to the man in the street.