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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:50 pm 
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Come on Sunset. Scotland has been lied to for 40 years.
WHY?

We're waiting..............................................................
.............................are you too busy writing more tripe under the name G Laird?

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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:54 pm 
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Gus said

but I wasn't going to get into personal attacks. I leave that to the no camp, since they have nothing else.

Of course your lying you started many posts ago

I suspect it was hidden because the facts contained in it where secret, thats what happens with secret documents

The fact is at least i think the oil was british


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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
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sunset wrote:
Gus said

but I wasn't going to get into personal attacks. I leave that to the no camp, since they have nothing else.

Of course your lying you started many posts ago

I suspect it was hidden because the facts contained in it where secret, thats what happens with secret documents

The fact is at least i think the oil was british


Oh very good sunset. It was secret because it was secret #-o
Your wisdom knows no bounds :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
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Did you miss the british bit underneath ?? he he he

Gus it has been a pleasure

sadly i have spent too much time on here recently

i usually only have a quick look

and now

and i need to make some pennies

good luck and
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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:29 pm 
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sunset wrote:
Did you miss the british bit underneath ?? he he he

Gus it has been a pleasure

sadly i have spent too much time on here recently

i usually only have a quick look

and now

and i need to make some pennies

good luck and
Tiocfaidh ár lá


Saor Alba Sunset. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
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I'll live in hope that someone else can manage a more insightful answer then. Scotland deserves no less.
Bloodnock you up for it?

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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
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gusmac wrote:
I'll live in hope that someone else can manage a more insightful answer then. Scotland deserves no less.
Bloodnock you up for it?



Dunno..what was the question?


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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
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bloodnock wrote:

Dunno..what was the question?


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British government commissions report into newly discovered North sea oil. Report says that an independent Scotland would be the wealthiest in Europe. British government stamps the report secret and hides it away for 30 years. Meanwhile British politicians, many of whom must have been well aware of the report's contents, spend every day between then and now telling anyone who will listen that Scotland is a basket case economy that could never survive on it's own. Some of them are still doing it today.

Why do you think this report was hidden from us bloodnock?
It wouldn't have been anything as underhand as cheating the Scots now would it? All those honourable members wouldn't do such a thing now, would they?

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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:25 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
bloodnock wrote:

Dunno..what was the question?


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British government commissions report into newly discovered North sea oil. Report says that an independent Scotland would be the wealthiest in Europe. British government stamps the report secret and hides it away for 30 years. Meanwhile British politicians, many of whom must have been well aware of the report's contents, spend every day between then and now telling anyone who will listen that Scotland is a basket case economy that could never survive on it's own. Some of them are still doing it today.

Why do you think this report was hidden from us bloodnock?
It wouldn't have been anything as underhand as cheating the Scots now would it? All those honourable members wouldn't do such a thing now, would they?



Stands to reason it was wrong, If it were right then instead of Scotland being the wealthiest place in Europe Britain would have been the Wealthiest place in europe and we aint. more sensationalism nonsense using Oil as an excuse. As a Unionist I think we should share the good with the bad and not cherry pick the good when it suits , that's the SNP Isolationist way of doing things.


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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
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Gusmac, why don’t you just say that Salmond, MacAskill and Sturgeon and the rest of the SNP, is a bunch of lying scumbag [edited by admin], but you want to vote for independence anyway? At least, that way everyone will understand you don’t really believe a word, but you will have some credibility for your political stance on this nonsense.


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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
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bloodnock wrote:
Stands to reason it was wrong, If it were right then instead of Scotland being the wealthiest place in Europe Britain would have been the Wealthiest place in europe and we aint. more sensationalism nonsense using Oil as an excuse. As a Unionist I think we should share the good with the bad and not cherry pick the good when it suits , that's the SNP Isolationist way of doing things.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Well you have a brighter future in comedy than the Skull :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
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gusmac wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Stands to reason it was wrong, If it were right then instead of Scotland being the wealthiest place in Europe Britain would have been the Wealthiest place in europe and we aint. more sensationalism nonsense using Oil as an excuse. As a Unionist I think we should share the good with the bad and not cherry pick the good when it suits , that's the SNP Isolationist way of doing things.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Well you have a brighter future in comedy than the Skull :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You wanted an answer and you got one...like it or not.. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
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More lies

to me to you
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 Post subject: Re: Tut Tut Mr Salmond
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:11 pm 
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sunset wrote:
More lies

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mr laird has a penchant for lies. He seems capable of twisting anything into one.

I don't suppose he's going to highlight Ms Lamont's outrageous lies to the Scottish parliament last year, which she has yet to apologise for?

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Salmond apologises for getting it wrong – but for others, sorry is the hardest word
Friday, 16 November 2012 06:44

By G.A.Ponsonby

So Alex Salmond has apologised to the Scottish Parliament for quoting college funding figures for 2011/12 that were inaccurate.

An own- goal, and quite spectacular as it goes. That college funding and Education Secretary Michael Russell would have been the focus at this week’s First Minister’s Questions was a pretty safe bet, so to get funding figures wrong was inexcusable.

Mr Salmond’s apology though was humble and sought not to apportion blame – “I take full responsibility for what I say in this chamber” he said.

The immediate response from Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont was graceless and demonstrated a lack of judgement. Her decision to interrupt proceedings with a point of order that was little more than an ill-tempered rant, that brought a series of rebukes from the Presiding Officer (PO), was unseemly.

Ms Lamont levelled a string of allegations against Mr Salmond that even the most ardent of Labour supporters would admit were an exaggeration at best and false at worst. Ms Lamont glowered at the PO as he sought to intervene, and finally, clearly exasperated, the PO ended the intemperate tirade by saying “I think we’ve had enough Ms Lamont”.

Claims from Labour that Mr Salmond had "deliberately" misled Parliament were ridiculous, given that Mr Russell had some weeks ago provided a written answer to the Education Committee that contained the correct figures. It is beyond comprehension that the First Minister would deliberately seek to then present false figures to the chamber.

Johann Lamont is of course no stranger to misleading the Scottish Parliament. In October 2011, when Deputy Leader, Johann Lamont described the experience of a rape victim who had been subjected to a harrowing cross examination at the trial of her alleged attacker.

The problem for Ms Lamont though was that the trial she claimed took place, was complete fabrication. Indeed an investigation by the authorities could find no mention of any such case and the newspaper was forced to issue an apology after admitting that the reporter had invented it.

Fortunately for Ms Lamont no-one made an issue of her mistake, not even BBC Scotland. Had they done so then she may well have lost out in the contest to replace Iain Gray as Scottish Labour leader a matter of weeks later.

Unlike Mr Salmond, who also made an honest mistake, Lamont has yet to apologise for the false rape story.

The Salmond apology will be covered comprehensively by BBC Scotland, and others – and that is as it should be. Interviews will be given and allegations will flow. Mr Salmond's media and political opponents will have a field day.

However, BBC Scotland reporters will be faced with Labour MSPs eager to make capital out of the SNP blunder.

So, it is surely now time to approach allegations of misleading parliament in a fair and balanced manner and ask representatives of Scottish Labour to address Ms Lamont’s now year old false rape story.

Presenting falsehoods as fact might also cause BBC Scotland itself to finally address, why, in January this year, they allowed a Labour MSP to broadcast claims against the Scottish NHS that were demonstrably false - and that the BBC knew were false for fully two days prior to broadcast.

Last night Gordon Brewer asked SNP Minister Angela Constance an accusatory question on Newsnight Scotland, that began, "You were supposed to be different...".

Well apologising when you make a mistake is certainly different from the BBC and, if the false rape case is anything to go by, very different from Johann Lamont.

http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/sc ... rdest-word

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