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Who are they? :?

Maybe you should read the document again, page 5

So I will ask again ,out of the 49 since the OFT published it's report, how many Local authorities in Scotland have Lifted Numbers Restriction, barring Dundee.

So they are a document. [-(

The honest answer is I don't know, but I would guess none, else you wouldn't have asked.

Now your point please. :wink:

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why does everyone want te represent everyone else in the Edinburgh trade? Why cant we have a properly constituted Drivers association instead of the wannabe Representatives telling everyone else what and how they should be running their own business, while conversely failing to hide the fact that it is often politically motivated causes that really interest them.


I just wonder who you think should be representing whom? Should it be the owners representing non owners? Or non owners representing owners? Perhaps it should be a combination of the two? How about the TGWU, or would that be two much of a conflict with the buses? Maybe the Scottish Taxi federation of which I know nothing at all about, should they do the representing?

Perhaps no matter who does the representing in a restricted authority their own financial vested interest comes first. However, it would be interesting to hear your views of who and why?

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Well JD should three unelected individuals claim to be speaking for the majority, same goes for everyone else who claims to be representing each other, I dont subscribe to that, if someone wants to speak or act on my behalf they better make sure they have my permission.

It follows that it would be better if there was some kind of proper Drivers association, where peoples views and wishes were taken into account, what we have at the moment are a couple of opposing groups arguing vociferously with each other , and it would seem with everyone else, there is no representation, so why should anyone simply assume the role of representative.


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Sussex wrote:
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Who are they? :?

Maybe you should read the document again, page 5

So I will ask again ,out of the 49 since the OFT published it's report, how many Local authorities in Scotland have Lifted Numbers Restriction, barring Dundee.

So they are a document. [-(

The honest answer is I don't know, but I would guess none, else you wouldn't have asked.

Now your point please. :wink:



Well "they" are whoever compiled the document.

Point is Sussex the figures quoted seem to apply to England and Wales, so why quote them?


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William Maitland wrote:
Sussex wrote:
William Maitland wrote:
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Who are they? :?

Maybe you should read the document again, page 5

So I will ask again ,out of the 49 since the OFT published it's report, how many Local authorities in Scotland have Lifted Numbers Restriction, barring Dundee.

So they are a document. [-(

The honest answer is I don't know, but I would guess none, else you wouldn't have asked.

Now your point please. :wink:



Well "they" are whoever compiled the document.

Point is Sussex the figures quoted seem to apply to England and Wales, so why quote them?


Because this lying scum decided too poke their bitter noses into the real world, but all their lying scheming and underhand carry on is about to come crashing down on them real soon,och, ah said it again "loony" :oops: and no apology,oops :roll:

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William Maitland wrote:
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William Maitland wrote:
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Who are they? :?

Maybe you should read the document again, page 5

So I will ask again ,out of the 49 since the OFT published it's report, how many Local authorities in Scotland have Lifted Numbers Restriction, barring Dundee.

So they are a document. [-(

The honest answer is I don't know, but I would guess none, else you wouldn't have asked.

Now your point please. :wink:



Well "they" are whoever compiled the document.

Point is Sussex the figures quoted seem to apply to England and Wales, so why quote them?


Because this lying scum decided too poke their bitter noses into the real world, but all their lying scheming and underhand carry on is about to come crashing down on them real soon,och, ah said it again "loony" :oops: and no apology,oops :roll:



This isn't you resorting to threats again is it? Do me a favour and grow up, do you really think anything less than killing me would stop me, don't make me laugh.

You know this, so far I have been confronted by one owner who wanted to know what this was all about and when I explained it to him he understood my point. :wink:

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"You know this, so far I have been confronted by one owner who wanted to know what this was all about and when I explained it to him he understood my point."



Was that out of understanding or fear. :lol:

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William Maitland wrote:
Point is Sussex the figures quoted seem to apply to England and Wales, so why quote them?

Who know?

But to me it's no different than the lies of the T&G and NTA who keep banging on about Edinburgh fares doubling after de-limitation and drivers handing back their plates.

Sorry got that wrong, it is different, Mr Skull and co have researched their views on here and elsewhere, the T&G and NTA got their facts out of a Xmas cracker. :shock:

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Because this lying scum decided too poke their bitter noses into the real world, but all their lying scheming and underhand carry on is about to come crashing down on them real soon,och, ah said it again "loony" :oops: and no apology,oops :roll:

Blimey I thought it was just me that didn't like the Mansfield planks liying site. :wink:

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London (Supreme cab company) 04 Reg TX2 (No radio) £230 per week on the flat (Exclusive use, no share)

Colts cabs, P Reg fairway, (No radio) on the flat, £190 per week.

Hope that helps as a comparison.


That'll be the London which is de-restricted then, will it?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:23 am 
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What has some of that got to do with your average cabby who just goes out and does his job to the best of his or hers ability.
absolutly nothing carry on william

It seems to be more about vengeance and spite against the council :roll: it's all to reactionary for me, something bad happened to me so everyone must suffer the consequences, Hell hath no fury like a taxi driver scorned kind of thing.

how will we all suffer

There may be problems in the taxi trade but telling us who should and should not be resigning their positions from the Council aint going to help anyone.


mulligan should resign becouse he just backed a known and convicted criminal,all this when the chief constable objected,and mr mulligan being on the police board,if he shouldnt resign why not ?

Everyone will have the chance to vote them out, if that is their wish, in 18 months time, until then I would learn to except it.

seems you dont need to learn to accept anything william,youre a master in acceptance

Shame really a document with some reasonable stuff ruined by Political bias.



I take it you mean Milligan, as in Eric Milligan the two times Lord Provost of Edinburgh and nearly third, if it is someone called Mulligan I cant say as I do not know anything about them.

Anyway I do not like to comment on these things as I drive a Taxi for a living, I am not on the licensing commitee of CEC nor the Police Board nor do I really care come to think of it, perhaps you should be asking why it matters so much that cabbies should be telling the ex lord provost he should resign :?


How about because he is a disgrace as a politician?

And that there is every likelihood that he pulled strings, abusing his "elected" position the come to the help of a pal?

Or, because he represents the police board and his Chief constable made a particularly strong case for taking away the criminal's licence?

It's disappointing, and worrying, that anyone would try to defend the scurrilous activities of a Councillor like Milligan, unless he was related to him, or a pal. Particularly when perhaps the major problem our trade has is that Edinburgh's council, made up of people of the "quality" of Milligan, have been sticking it right up us for years. Now this can only be because either they have a strong natural desire to do so - exercise autocratic control because they can - or they just don't realise they're doing it, in effect incompetence.

Now, if you can't see this ....

If you make apology for this ....

If you meekly accept this .....

..... then it is YOU who is the real problem. And nothing is going to change until you get your brain in gear and realise what's going on.

Last century, those fighting for their rights had to deal with the same forelock tugging muppets, some of whom we have now in our trade now. Only, our job is much harder, because the very organisation which was established then to fight for justice - The labour party - is the very one which we have to campaign against now. In short, it too has become part of the problem.

And, whether we like it or not, the whole system is controlled by a clique. Eric Milligan is part of that clique. As is Phil Attridge. As is Donald Anderson, the council leader who doesn't, who allows council officials to run rampant with every crap idea they want to inflict on our city - irrespective of both cost and consequences - as they administer their "empire".

The magazine also points out how the rest of the swamp, the councillors who beaver away in their ward, allow the clique to run riot because they never hold them to account, dragging the whole process down and inflicting real damage on us in financial and personal worth terms.

If William Maitland truly is a real person, then take a real look at yourself. Either your thinking is fundamentally flawed or you're morally bankrupt. Which is it?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:37 am 
Apolgies for third post in a row. I'm catching up on points made on this thread.

Representation? Who said anything about us representing anyone?

We represent an idea. A fair and just one. A simple idea about free market economics which is the reality of 99% of every other commercial concern. Why should we not benefit from this? Why should we have to suffer being hamstrung by journeymen Joe politicians who think they can manage a market better than the market itself? particularly when learened economists have tried and failed. What makes these journeymen jJoe politicians better then they?

If trade members want to rally round TheFairView as a banner call to action then that may be a proposition. But it wasn't written with this aim in mind.

Anyway, I have my doubts it would work. It's already been tried and failed. organisations tend to be establish with pure though, real ideas. Very qickly they become mired in the minutiae of personal ambition, interests and skullduggery.

Who knows ...

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Well I may be morally bankrupt, but I dont know, morals are a funny thing to deal with, other peoples especially.

My thinking is not fundamentally flawed on this, you will not look at the bigger picture with regards to the Council, you just keep plugging away and plugging away, I suspect you will change nothing, because this is about Taxis, not the Edinburgh Council, I am not defending anyone, I just find it bizarre.


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jasbar wrote:
greenbadgecabby wrote:
London (Supreme cab company) 04 Reg TX2 (No radio) £230 per week on the flat (Exclusive use, no share)

Colts cabs, P Reg fairway, (No radio) on the flat, £190 per week.

Hope that helps as a comparison.


That'll be the London which is de-restricted then, will it?

:wink:


Is that the London so many thousands of minicabs worked illegally in an un-restricted market.

I also wish everyone would stop quoting London, different World down there, maybe they should do what you do and demand Ken Livingstone resign. Tony Blair he should resign as well because there was an incident between two taxi drivers and a guy called Wencker, it's just not fair, I suspect brown envelopes are flying around like confetti, there that will save you saying it.


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something wrong with someone quoting from the area thier from as in gbc case


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