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Fae Fife wrote:
We had a new Act as recently as 1982 covering both taxi and PH, so why not an new one in England?

We also had a review of it a few years ago, and I'm sure a new Act will be passed in the next few years.


I will give you a little clue, no party is ever in power long enough .

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I think your statement is a little bit far-fetched , I'm simply inquiring as to whether you had given any thought as to how to achieve a new Taxi Act, after all talk is cheap, actually making something happen is entirely different , I would imagine that a great many people already know how hard it would be to create a new act, and maybe, rather than sit round moaning and expecting nothing in their life time they will at least try to achieve change if even in a small way .


Are you talking about the framework and detail of a Bill or getting it through Parliament?

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MR T wrote:
I will give you a little clue, no party is ever in power long enough .


In that case no legislation would ever get passed?

How did the London PH Act get through?

The main problem with the trade in this regard is that it's not something that politicians know much about, and it's not something in the public eye much so to that extent that's explains the lack of action.

Parliament can only pass a fraction of new legislation that's required, so the big issues and those that resonate most with the voters and/or the parties own interest get priority.

And the status quo suits some people on here; that's why they try to make new legislation seem impossible and undeeded, whereas it's merely difficult and defo required. :)

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In that case no legislation would ever get passed?

The main problem with the trade in this regard is that it's not something that politicians know much about, and it's not something in the public eye much so to that extent that's explains the lack of action.

How did the London PH Act get through?

Parliament can only pass a fraction of new legislation that's required, so the big issues and those that resonate most with the voters and/or the parties own interest get priority.

And the status quo suits some people on here; that's why they try to make new legislation seem impossible and undeeded, whereas it's merely difficult and defo required. :roll:

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I think your statement is a little bit far-fetched , I'm simply inquiring as to whether you had given any thought as to how to achieve a new Taxi Act, after all talk is cheap, actually making something happen is entirely different , I would imagine that a great many people already know how hard it would be to create a new act, and maybe, rather than sit round moaning and expecting nothing in their life time they will at least try to achieve change if even in a small way .


Are you talking about the framework and detail of a Bill or getting it through Parliament?


I am simply asking you how you intend to bring about new legislation, how d'you think you could achieve it, and what would be the the structure of your new Act, once you have achieved the structure how then would you go about implementing it, who would be the people you would use to make it a reality. and what time scale do you visualise it would take , Do you think there would be opposition, do you think everyone would agree, would you place elements within the structure that could be changed easily if as time passed your new Act proved to be flawed....... :wink:

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I think you might find that most authorities in the country has a condition of license in respect of advertising so even if Berwick do have such a condition that does not make them unique in any way?


It really depends on what you believe to be advertising ................. having the words, JD's Taxis of Tynemouth and the telephone number is an advert that needs to be authorised.

You are, of course just anti anyone who stands up to you or gets in the way of your quest to become some sort of taxi expert available to advise councils for a fee.

You have absolutely no conscious when it comes to changing the world to do things the "JD" way .................. you care not about the well-being or safety of the public we are all there to provide a service for.

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In my opinion you are a disgrace, we can forgive those who make genuine mistakes but we can't really forgive anyone who fabricates a lie.

In my opinion, anyone taking advice from you must be in a desperate state indeed.


And your opinion is worth what exactly .................. you don't even have the courage to put your name to anything.

BTW what I have achieved in Gateshead may be insignificant to you, and indeed many others .................. but it is not for the drivers working their tits off in Gateshead.

The fabrication of lies is very much your forte Mr JD .................. please explain under what capacity YOU believe I am a representative of the GMB as I can assure you that as we stand at the moment I'm merely a member who has agreed to help with setting up a PDB in the NE, and when that branch is properly formed an election will need to be held to establish who the members want to represent them.

Its called proper representation ..................... its called democracy ................. its called fairness ................. its called being open and honest to members.

I may not have had the education you have had JD ................. I may make more mistakes than you within the language or terminology within my posts, buts thats because I'm a fooking taxi driver and not some failed lawyer who was disgraced out of his profession ............... driving a cab must have been a real culture shock for you was it ............... your family must be so proud.

B. Lucky =D> :-({|= :-k :-$

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I may not have had the education you have had JD ................. I may make more mistakes than you within the language or terminology within my posts, buts thats because I'm a fooking taxi driver and not some failed lawyer who was disgraced out of his profession ............... driving a cab must have been a real culture shock for you was it ............... your family must be so proud.

B. Lucky =D> :-({|= :-k :-$



Ouch! :lol:

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GA wrote:
It really depends on what you believe to be advertising ................. having the words, JD's Taxis of Tynemouth and the telephone number is an advert that needs to be authorised.

You are, of course just anti anyone who stands up to you or gets in the way of your quest to become some sort of taxi expert available to advise councils for a fee.

You have absolutely no conscious when it comes to changing the world to do things the "JD" way .................. you care not about the well-being or safety of the public we are all there to provide a service for.


I suppose for your sake it’s a good job I'm in a charitable mood this morning, lol.

This latest post of yours is yet more nonsense.

You come out with an untrue statement which you made up, yet paraded as FACT and when pulled up about it instead of being a man and holding your hands up for being wrong, you squirm like a child and start throwing insults about. lol

I give up on you but I'll tell you one thing, as long as I'm around you or anyone else won't get away with publishing their lies and misinformation on TDO, however, if you continually wish to mimic an exhibit from a three ringed circus then by all means carry on as you are.


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The above aside, I understand Berwick accept applications by post and will send you all your liceses by return of post....should save people the bother of going up the A1.


I suppose that is after the vehicle has been tested, however it just shows how backward both you and Carlisle council really are because many authorities throughout the country including Manchester encourage postal applications.

Considering the parless state of Carlisle councilors and their known capacity for backward thinking it is therefore no surprise that the innovation of postal applications remains un-chartered territory.

Regardless of the sorry state of Carlisle council I'm surprised the unofficial voice of the NTA is completely ignorant of the modern trends in licensing.

But I forgot, you are stuck in the 1847 time warp and that explains everything.

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GA wrote:
It really depends on what you believe to be advertising ................. having the words, JD's Taxis of Tynemouth and the telephone number is an advert that needs to be authorised.

You are, of course just anti anyone who stands up to you or gets in the way of your quest to become some sort of taxi expert available to advise councils for a fee.

You have absolutely no conscious when it comes to changing the world to do things the "JD" way .................. you care not about the well-being or safety of the public we are all there to provide a service for.


I suppose for your sake it’s a good job I'm in a charitable mood this morning, lol.


Oh yeah ............. I'm so pleased your feeling charitable :roll:

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This latest post of yours is yet more nonsense.

You come out with an untrue statement which you made up, yet paraded as FACT and when pulled up about it instead of being a man and holding your hands up for being wrong, you squirm like a child and start throwing insults about. lol


I admitted I used the wrong terminology, but I will throw myself at the mercy of the members for stating by-law when in fact its a condition.

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I give up on you but I'll tell you one thing, as long as I'm around you or anyone else won't get away with publishing their lies and misinformation on TDO, however, if you continually wish to mimic an exhibit from a three ringed circus then by all means carry on as you are.


AHHHHHH thanks JD ................. I will only retort by saying as long as I'm around you won't get away with spreading your lies and misinformation ........................ and continue in your quest to destroy the HC industry and develop a reputation for yourself so you can charge a fee for your opinion.

JD anonymous taxi expert (cheap rates for regulated councils) .................. you've gorra admit its got a ring to it.

B. Lucky :D

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MR T wrote:
I am simply asking you how you intend to bring about new legislation, how d'you think you could achieve it, and what would be the the structure of your new Act, once you have achieved the structure how then would you go about implementing it, who would be the people you would use to make it a reality. and what time scale do you visualise it would take , Do you think there would be opposition, do you think everyone would agree, would you place elements within the structure that could be changed easily if as time passed your new Act proved to be flawed....... :wink:


The process wouldn't be that much different from any other Act of Parliament, so I'm surprised that you seem to allude that it's such a novel procedure.

Of course there would be opposition - from the vested interest groups in particular - but that's one reason the current mess has lasted so long.

I refer you again to the London PH Act, which is clearly trade related, but on the other hand was fundamentally no different from the passing of any major UK Act.

The new regime in Ireland is also clearly interesting in this regard since it encompassed some radical new thinking and also dealt with the whole trade.

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But of course the first step is to get sufficient momentum behind the thinking that the current regulatory regime is a total mess and in need of root and branch reform.

Then the real debate would begin. :D

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I think the best way would be to tear up the rule book and start again, but keep any governing body's out of it. as I see it we only need approximately 30 rules to start with, but who could draw up these rules as there is a definite conflict of views even here on TDO
These rules would apply nationwide, and if by some miracle we could all sing from the same hymnbook every thing would be hunky dory
The first rule I would have is freedom of choice of vehicle and colour

Does anyone know what rules apply across Europe and are they any different to ours

Just add the rule you would like to see


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Skippy .................. if the laws are going to be re-written they will be based upon whats best for the people using the service not providing it.

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Skippy .................. if the laws are going to be re-written they will be based upon whats best for the people using the service not providing it.


if we get the service right first, the whats best will follow. don't forget you have to talk to the organ grinder not the monkey


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