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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:37 pm 
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Waste of time effort and money.

This is like the A4E carry on, just legalised robbery!!!! The government is stealing our cash and giving it to bodies that take millions from the education pot, who attempt to teach people how to suck eggs.


The NVQ is not supposed to teach or train ffs how many times do you need to be told, it's not a training course

This company is called SPS training but you say that the course is not training so why is this company involved?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:57 pm 
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grandad wrote:
toots wrote:
thelodger wrote:
Waste of time effort and money.

This is like the A4E carry on, just legalised robbery!!!! The government is stealing our cash and giving it to bodies that take millions from the education pot, who attempt to teach people how to suck eggs.


The NVQ is not supposed to teach or train ffs how many times do you need to be told, it's not a training course

This company is called SPS training but you say that the course is not training so why is this company involved?


Perhaps they do other training, wtf do I know :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:11 pm 
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Perhaps they do other training, wtf do I know :wink:


Exactly toots wtf do you know ..... its passed of as a training course to prove that someone whos been doing the job 20 years knows what there doing....

Kelly do us all a favour an f o , theres a recession on an you lot are wasting tax payers money on pathetic courses (or is it training. :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:15 am 
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andycable wrote:
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Perhaps they do other training, wtf do I know :wink:


Exactly toots wtf do you know ..... its passed of as a training course to prove that someone whos been doing the job 20 years knows what there doing....

Kelly do us all a favour an f o , theres a recession on an you lot are wasting tax payers money on pathetic courses (or is it training. :roll:


I know enough to know it's not a training course and I'm making the effort to learn more

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:16 am 
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toots wrote:
thelodger wrote:
Waste of time effort and money.

This is like the A4E carry on, just legalised robbery!!!! The government is stealing our cash and giving it to bodies that take millions from the education pot, who attempt to teach people how to suck eggs.


The NVQ is not supposed to teach or train ffs how many times do you need to be told, it's not a training course


What is it then?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:13 am 
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There is no need to be so rude, how dare you to tell me to F O!!!

I am simple advising for the person who is enquiring regarding the course and funding that we have funding available.

I am doing my job just as you do yours.

I have never abused a taxi driver in my life so do not abuse me.

You know nothing about me or clearly the organisation I represent.

This information was merely posted for those people who are interested and would like to gain the qualification.

There is no pressure selling, no words in my text to suggest you have to have the course. Just information.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:55 am 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
toots wrote:
thelodger wrote:
Waste of time effort and money.

This is like the A4E carry on, just legalised robbery!!!! The government is stealing our cash and giving it to bodies that take millions from the education pot, who attempt to teach people how to suck eggs.


The NVQ is not supposed to teach or train ffs how many times do you need to be told, it's not a training course


What is it then?


A long story, but, the short version is 'an assessment' :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:30 pm 
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There is no need to be so rude, how dare you to tell me to F O!!!

I am simple advising for the person who is enquiring regarding the course and funding that we have funding available.

I am doing my job just as you do yours.

I have never abused a taxi driver in my life so do not abuse me.

You know nothing about me or clearly the organisation I represent.

This information was merely posted for those people who are interested and would like to gain the qualification.

There is no pressure selling, no words in my text to suggest you have to have the course. Just information.



Ahhh SPS Training rear their ugly heads at the right time.

SPS Training along with the other companies are the sharks of this NVQ lark, they've been peddling thier false advertising over the last few months on Capital FM round here.

F***in NVQ my backside, what can you teach a person who's been driving a taxi for 24 years FFS?

Do one and crawl back under your stone.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:33 pm 
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KellySPS wrote:
Good Morning All,

I am representative for the SPS group, We are a NATION WIDE provider for the Level 2 Road Passenger Vehicle Driving QCF.

Yes the funding for the qualification has depleted since it was first introduced and in 2011 the funding was withdrawn for part of the year as the amount left in the 'FUNDING' pot was re-assessed, it is also likely to happen again this year at the end of the funders financial year.

However due to SPS's success rate we are still a leading provider in this qualification with FULL FUNDING avaliable.

If you would like more information or to sign up for thee NVQ please contact Kelly on 0115 963 3333 ext 129.

Please note this NVQ is not mandatory unless it has been advised as applicable by your council.


What a load of bollocks.

It's a Mickey Mouse qualification (if you can call it a qualification) designed not to fail.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:43 am 
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Have to agree with Toots on this one, it is only an assessment


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:24 pm 
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I am doing the course now and have completed 3 out of 5 sessions. Our training co is doing both NVQ and VRQ together.

The firm I drive through hold the local NHS Trust contract and they are insisting drivers that do contract work for them must have the NVQ.

Having read on the forum about some of the providers, I think we are lucky and possibly may have a good one? It is being run by a proper college and the trainers are ex plod. Not that that means anything neccessarily but they do come across as taking it seriously and trying to do a good job.

I can't say I am 100% convinced of its validity but I am fully funded and believe I will get a bit of paper that means I can to hospital jobs. Good enough for me at the present.

And looking back at one of Toots's earliest comments on this thread
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wanting to taxi drive for a second income. I personally won't loose any sleep over this
seems I may not be flavour of the month. Oh well.

Lets be honest I suspect powers that be thought forcing this "qualification" may stem the mass of new driver applications that they cannot justify turning away otherwise. You do have to be able to speak and understand English to do this assuming of course the thing is run properly.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:04 pm 
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Lets be honest I suspect powers that be thought forcing this "qualification" may stem the mass of new driver applications that they cannot justify turning away otherwise. You do have to be able to speak and understand English to do this assuming of course the thing is run properly.


Lets be honest I suspect that the powers that be were embarrassed to be at the lower end of the scale when it came to qualifications within Europe. From that was born the NVQ, which enabled people to gain a qualification whilst working. I would think that when next assessed our country will have a nice high figure of qualified people working within it. The fact that most see the qualification as worthless means nothing to the stats

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The firm I drive through hold the local NHS Trust contract and they are insisting drivers that do contract work for them must have the NVQ.


I wonder if they would still insist if they had to pay for it?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:04 pm 
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I wonder if they would still insist if they had to pay for it?


To clarify it is the trust insisting on the NVQ. If the firm and drivers had to pay I suspect the trust would have no one to do the hospital jobs. The rate per job is pretty awful. Even for very short distances you can be tied up for 1/2 hour and get £4.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:13 am 
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I wonder if they would still insist if they had to pay for it?


To clarify it is the trust insisting on the NVQ. If the firm and drivers had to pay I suspect the trust would have no one to do the hospital jobs. The rate per job is pretty awful. Even for very short distances you can be tied up for 1/2 hour and get £4.


On what basis has the trust decided that a driver with an NVQ is any better than a driver without one? I wonder how many years they've had drivers without NVQs driving for them and I wonder if the requirement is based on previous bad experiences therefore they sourced to find the best drivers for the job by only having qualified drivers. I also wonder if they know exactly what is involved in acquiring an NVQ? I ask about these things because I believe that they have been sold the idea of the NVQ rather than they felt they needed qualified drivers. If the funding hadn't been made available in the first place throughout the Uk I wonder if they would still be requiring drivers to have this qualification if the funding had never been available :D

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:15 am 
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you can be tied up for 1/2 hour and get £4.

That sounds like a kinky experience, where do I sign up? :oops:

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