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I heard today its a fault on the air conditioning on gold models.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/businessandpartners/30-8-under-bonnet-fires-tx4s.pdf

CC

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It seems that LTI are putting the onus on the driver to sort it, not offer an urgent recall back to the dealership.

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IDFIMH

Latest from the PCO courtesy of Mr Flanagan of the GMB.

PCO Notice 31/08

Supplementary notice: under bonnet fires in TX4s

Following a further fire in ‘56’ registered TX4 taxis, the PCO is suspending the licences of these vehicles.

The licences for all ‘56’ registered TX4 taxis are therefore suspended subject to the requirements set out below.

While there have been no injuries in any of the fires so far, both the licensing authority (TfL) and the manufacturer (LTI) want to minimise the risks to both drivers and passengers.

What owners must do next:

a. if your taxi has been inspected and certified as safe by LTI at Mann and Overton

You may continue to use your vehicle in passenger service.

b. if your vehicle has not been inspected and certified that all engine safety checks have been carried out by LTI at Mann and Overton

You must not use your vehicle in passenger service until LTI has completed this inspection and you have obtained this certification.

LTI may already have offered you an appointment. If not, you will be offered an appointment shortly. LTI will be working at Mann and Overton until all in-scope taxis have been checked and signed off. See attached statement from LTI.

If you have any queries about your LTI appointment, the LTI call centre number is 0121 322 0710 (hours of operation are: 9:00am to 5:00pm Monday to Friday, 9:00am to 3:00pm Saturday & Sunday).

Precautions for drivers (of any vehicle, but particularly those vehicles referred to above):

LTI advise all taxi drivers that, in the event of smoke or unusual noises originating in the engine compartment of any cab, the driver:
• stops the cab quickly and safely;
• immediately removes him/herself and any passengers from the vicinity of the cab; and
• calls the fire brigade.

The PCO appreciates your co-operation.

Mary Dowdye
Head Standards & Regulation
18 September 2008

LTI statement

LTI acknowledge the twelfth incident concerning an early built 56 registered TX4 that has had an under bonnet fire. LTI support the PCO in ensuring that passenger and driver safety remains a priority and the cause of the problem is discovered as quickly as possible and a solution put in place.

The PCO has agreed that all 56 TX4s that have already been inspected by LTI and have had their service books stamped accordingly, can remain licensed and in service. Any vehicle that has not yet had an engine bay safety inspection will be allowed back into service once it has been inspected and had the service book stamped.

All drivers must present their service book to have it stamped but where this is not possible, LTI will issue a headed paper stamped and signed by the inspector. This must remain in the vehicle at all times so it can be presented if the vehicle is stopped, as proof the vehicle has had the engine bay safety inspection.

To increase the capacity for inspections, LTI and Mann and Overton will now operate an increased working day as well as opening on Saturday and Sunday of this weekend the 20th and 21st of September.

Drivers will be contacted by the LTI call centre to arrange an inspection or they can contact the centre by email to jtedford@mannandoverton.com or call 0121 3220710.

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The major contributory factor is that it's a 'Bag of Sh*t'

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Another PCO notice via the GMB postman.

PCO Notice 32/08

Supplementary Notice 2: under bonnet fires in TX4s

PCO Notice 31/08 suspended the licences of all ‘56’ registered TX4 taxis subject to the requirements set out in that notice (inspection and certification by LTI).

Following the first week of the inspections and investigations, the PCO met to discuss the current position with the manufacturer LTI and TfL’s external technical advisors.

LTI has been unable to confirm that these taxis are safe to use and fit for purpose as licensed London taxis, even after inspection at Mann and Overton.

While the inspections are providing useful information, the cause of the fires has not been identified so no appropriate and direct remedial action can be taken. The Licensing Authority cannot be satisfied that these vehicles would meet its Conditions of Fitness for taxis.

For the safety of passengers, drivers and other road users, the licences for all ‘56’ registered TX4 taxis are suspended under the London Cab Order 1934, and related legislation, with immediate effect.

Owners and drivers of these taxis (TX4s with vehicle registrations in ‘56’ range) must not use these vehicles in passenger service until further notice. LTI is doing everything possible to identify the cause of the problem. Drivers will be informed as soon as the PCO is satisfied that the vehicles can return to service.

LTI will continue with inspections at Mann and Overton. Owners should continue to attend as arranged.

An enquiry line has been set up on 020 7126 1980, at 9am-4pm on Saturday 20th /Sunday 21st September and through the week.

This isn’t a step we have taken lightly and we know it will be a blow for taxi drivers. Although nobody has been hurt to date, we just can’t take any chances with the lives of taxi drivers, passengers and other road users.

Mary Dowdye
Head of Standards & Regulation
19 September 2008

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I think this takes things to a new level. FFS.

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You have got to be having a fecking laugh CC?

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Think: responsible, accountable and culpable? Well then, who the feck is to blame?

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Sussex wrote

''To increase the capacity for inspections, LTI and Mann and Overton will now operate an increased working day as well as opening on Saturday and Sunday of this weekend the 20th and 21st of September. ''

...and who will pay for this overtime?

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LTI.
That won't cover the dough these poor sods are going to loose. It could be months or even years before this sh*t is sorted out.

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..and what effect do you think this will have on the price of 56 reg TX4s?

Remember the PCO will always give these cabs 'an extra check' for public safety of course!

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Thought it was busy tonight, obviously a few owners of the '56' batch are not aware their plates have been suspended, as I saw a good few out tonight.

That's a risk I would'nt be taking, a big no no to drive a cab on a 'stop'

Good old reliable TX2's.

Glad you were busy GBC, i done ok but it was a bit of a slog...still got there in the end!

I too saw a fair few 56 registered TX4's driving around this evening, with so much publicity surrounding this issue i'd say it's a sure bet that a picture or two will find its way to the authorities...........i know its a real p**ser for the owners/drivers of these cabs to have to go and rent a cab or lose out on a few nights work but for the greater good can they not antagonise the PCO!

On a similar note , i can imagine the call going up now from the doom mongers in city hall about the importance of maintaining the 6 monthly inspection like it would make any difference to this situation anyhow

ho-hum, happy days ahead!