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The law says you need a PCV drivers licence to drive more than 8 passengers for hire and reward.
If the limo isn't a bus, what use is a PCV driver's licence?


That's as maybe but does the law say that a limo is a bus because it needs a PCV licence :?

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The law says you need a PCV drivers licence to drive more than 8 passengers for hire and reward.
If the limo isn't a bus, what use is a PCV driver's licence?


That's as maybe but does the law say that a limo is a bus because it needs a PCV licence :?


No and I believe it can be driven on a regular car licence provided it is not for hire and reward (9-16 seats).

Point is if it is 9+ passengers, unlicensed and for hire and reward, it is an unlicenced bus rather than an unlicensed HC or PH. 9+ is outside the scope of HC/PH licensing. (If that makes sense :lol: )

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Point is if it is 9+ passengers, unlicensed and for hire and reward, it is an unlicenced bus rather than an unlicensed HC or PH. 9+ is outside the scope of HC/PH licensing. (If that makes sense :lol: )


Kind of makes sense but I'd be inclined to say it was an unlicensed PCV 8-[

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Point is if it is 9+ passengers, unlicensed and for hire and reward, it is an unlicenced bus rather than an unlicensed HC or PH. 9+ is outside the scope of HC/PH licensing. (If that makes sense :lol: )


Kind of makes sense but I'd be inclined to say it was an unlicensed PCV 8-[
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It also has to be tested & the reason for that is that it will only be approved if upon testing it is found to be within the tolerances as laid down by Trading Standards when compared to the tariff set by the PH operator that the vehicle proprietor works for.

You are saying a meter is only approved once a set tariff is checked and sealed.

I'm saying a meter is approved when the maker receives approval for the unit itself.

I can see nothing written in law which says a council must check and seal a meter according to the set rate laid down by the operator.

And IMO for good reason.

I can see your point about having a taximeter in a PHV that has been approved as per The European Measuring Instrument Directive 2004.

http://www.aquila-electronics.co.uk/mid_explain.html

BUT the LG(MP) Act 1976 states;

71 Taximeters
(1) Nothing in this Act shall require any private hire vehicle to be equipped with any form of taximeter but no private hire vehicle so equipped shall be used for hire in a controlled district unless such taximeter has been tested and approved by or on behalf of the district council for the district or any other district council by which a vehicle licence in force for the vehicle was issued.
(2) Any person who —
(a) tampers with any seal on any taximeter without lawful excuse; or
(b) alters any taximeter with intent to mislead; or
(c) knowingly causes or permits a vehicle of which he is the proprietor to be used in contravention of subsection (1) of this section. shall be guilty of an offence.

So the Act does refer to 'tampers with any seal on any taximeter' and the taximeter must be, 'tested and approved by or on behalf of the district council'.

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