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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:56 pm 
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Here's another little nugget, Fairplay, anecdotal it may be, but it's worth the telling.

A child with, very little academic ability, was about to be thrown on the educational scrap heap of lost causes. Luckily, his parents were fortunate in the respect they could pay for a private education. His headmaster told me they didn't know what to do with him, but that he had one saving grace, an obsession with insects, or entomology. The headmaster simply guided the process of incorporating his obsession into the various subject he needed to learn. He virtually taught himself.

He is now a professor that works with the British Museum. :-|


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:06 pm 
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Skull, I’ll bet you that the guy you’re talking about would be the first to say that he got where he is today, thanks to the support he had from others. It’s called, “Humility”, mate. That’s taking nothing away from what he’s achieved, but, “He taught himself” ?. Don’t be ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:11 pm 
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why don't you think you can teach yourself almost anything. :?:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:30 pm 
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Ali, Skull was referring to a kid !. With respect, surely even you agree that it would have been impossible for him to have achieved what he did, without for example, the parents/Headmaster ?. (Maybe I’ve read it wrong).


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:36 pm 
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Skull wrote:
Here's another little nugget, Fairplay, anecdotal it may be, but it's worth the telling.

A child with, very little academic ability, was about to be thrown on the educational scrap heap of lost causes. Luckily, his parents were fortunate in the respect they could pay for a private education. His headmaster told me they didn't know what to do with him, but that he had one saving grace, an obsession with insects, or entomology. The headmaster simply guided the process of incorporating his obsession into the various subject he needed to learn. He virtually taught himself.

He is now a professor that works with the British Museum. :-|

My Son has just started high school, Holyrood!!! what your saying about incorporating what a child is good at is part of the schools curriculum, the first year is about identifying the stengths and weaknesses of every child, the school also includes Maths in english and sciences and many other subjects are mixed and matched, so sorry to tell you but your story is steroetypical of schooling 30 years ago, education has moved on, education is no longer disadvantaging one group of children from another.

The point of this thread was about corruption, you took it one step further and started talking about the system corrupting our education system, Skull our democracy needs discipline to make our democracy work, that is why discipline is part of a childs education, the system done away with the belt in state schools years ago but i bet the cane is still in use in private schools.

Your views just like de-restriction are outdated, the system has moved on and there are thousands of kids from state schools attending university.

I believe academics should be identified and encouraged no matter the back ground but i also believe in and at the age of 14 that kids who prefer practical should move on to vocational studies rather than educational study, so if a lad wants to become a Brickie or a plumber we teach the theory of that over their next 2 years, there s a theory to every job and with some practical thrown in there, we give the kids with the dream a real opportunity to fullfill their potential, its on its way and is slowly happening in many schools, but we do need more investment and political will.

Back to the main point Skull we all live in a corrupt society but it's a lot less corrupt than many places, i'm one who accepts the way things are because corruption doesn't affect me, corruption has affected you and thats why you want retribution but you have to ask yourself are you squeaky clean?

I doubt any man who say's he is :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:52 pm 
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Fairplay wrote:
Skull, I’ll bet you that the guy you’re talking about would be the first to say that he got where he is today, thanks to the support he had from others. It’s called, “Humility”, mate. That’s taking nothing away from what he’s achieved, but, “He taught himself” ?. Don’t be ridiculous.


Once again, you show your stupidity, I said he virtually taught himself.

Virtually – in essence or effect but not in fact.

I related the story as it was told to me by his Headmaster. :-|


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:56 pm 
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Personally, A’ dinnae’ buy into this “self taught” stuff. We all learn things in different ways. Parents, Tutors, peers, books etc. We are what we are because of our past experiences, but dinnae’ give me any “Guff” about some “Taxi Drivers” or, “Drivers of a Taxi”, being any more Knowledgeable than me.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:59 pm 
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Are you on drugs?

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education is no longer disadvantaging one group of children from another.



So private education is no better than state education? #-o


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:59 pm 
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OK Skull, it would have been "Vitually", imposible for the lad to have achieved what he did without the support of others. Self Taught ? Bullshit !.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:01 pm 
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Fairplay wrote:
Personally, A’ dinnae’ buy into this “self taught” stuff. We all learn things in different ways. Parents, Tutors, peers, books etc. We are what we are because of our past experiences, but dinnae’ give me any “Guff” about some “Taxi Drivers” or, “Drivers of a Taxi”, being any more Knowledgeable than me.


John, I think almost everyone on the planet is more knowledgeable than you and Dougie. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:07 pm 
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Tried ma' best to discuss Skull. Waste o' time. Better just to mock you. More fun anyway !.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:10 pm 
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Fairplay wrote:
OK Skull, it would have been "Vitually", imposible for the lad to have achieved what he did without the support of others. Self Taught ? Bullshit !.


I never said he was self-taught and without support. You've taken what I wrote out of context, and you've missed the point completely.

His mother and father opted for a private school because the state school was failing to address his needs. The headmaster simply supported him in his interest.

GET IT?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:11 pm 
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Skull wrote:
Are you on drugs?

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education is no longer disadvantaging one group of children from another.



So private education is no better than state education? #-o



This is what you are claiming isn't it Dougie? :?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:23 pm 
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Skull wrote:
Are you on drugs?

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education is no longer disadvantaging one group of children from another.



So private education is no better than state education? #-o

Thousands from both end up in the same University :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:24 pm 
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“He virtually taught himself”. It followed a “Full Stop”. It was not taken out of context. You’re an idiot !.


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