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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:23 pm 
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Alex Salmond is talking Lower Taxes :roll: Jasbar your scraping the barrell are you not, the Tories are justifying cuts as an alternative to raising taxes, going against common knowledge that to grow our economy the tories should cut taxes, they wont do it but they can afford to but hey more lies, me thinks their saving up for more illegal wars :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:29 am 
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It's tax, tax and tax again.


Evidence?

Council tax frozen across Scotland for the last 5 years.
No increase in income tax, despite having the power to do it.

More bollux Jasbar, not borne out by the facts.

BTW If you haven't noticed, we already have the most expensive fags and the most expensive fuel in Europe, courtesy of successive Westminster Governments.
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It's tax, tax and tax again.
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Does anyone trust Salmond on taxes?


Oh yes....very familiar :roll:


Council Tax frozen? While licensing fees have shot through the roof, parking fees increased and cuts across the whole council spectrum. Services have been decimated, education, welfare and now worse services like bin collection. All while councils are riding roughshod over workers' rights and tearing up legitimate and hardfought employment conditions.

Aye, right enough, Council Tax has been frozen :roll:

As for varying income tax by 3%. The only reason this hasn't been done is because it would be political suicide. But, if my memory is correct, the SNP have said that they want to use the power, and would seek to increase it without recourse to Westminster. Without looking, it wouldn't surprise me to find that it is included in Devo max proposals.

But then the nasties are taxing car parks, stores selling alcohol and fags. They've pushed up transport prices, effectively another tax on workers.

They're bringing in minimum pricing for alcohol, another tax on the poor, and they've done it without saying what level it will be set at. In other words it all looks cosy beforehand, and they will ram us on implementation. Isn't that a nice way to represent our interests?

But then, I have to admit that the Nasties do have one tax reduction policy. They are set to reduce corporation tax. No guys, we don't pay corporation tax. Now, let me think who does? Ah yes, it's the Ropey Dopey Murdochs of this world. You know them, they're the big boys with shedloads of cash milked from the labour of workers. That's who will benefit from this Salmond wheeze.

Wait a minute though. Who was salmond just seen cosying up to? Oh yes, it was old Ropey Dopey Murdoch himself.

And who has said they'll support Salmond? Ah yes, the comic called the SUN. Which just happens to be owned by Salmond's fotie buddie, old Ropey Dopey himself.

isn't it time you guys got real?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:45 am 
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Jasbar wrote:

Council Tax frozen? While licensing fees have shot through the roof, parking fees increased and cuts across the whole council spectrum. Services have been decimated, education, welfare and now worse services like bin collection. All while councils are riding roughshod over workers' rights and tearing up legitimate and hardfought employment conditions.

Aye, right enough, Council Tax has been frozen :roll:


And you would have been one of the first to complain if if council tax had gone up to pay for everything. Speak about having your cake and eating it.
Meanwhile the UK still takes 9.4% of it's funding from Scotland's 8.4% population. Great deal that. Outstanding.

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As for varying income tax by 3%. The only reason this hasn't been done is because it would be political suicide. But, if my memory is correct, the SNP have said that they want to use the power, and would seek to increase it without recourse to Westminster. Without looking, it wouldn't surprise me to find that it is included in Devo max proposals.


Well if it would be political suicide now, it still would be tomorrow, with or without Westminster's say so.
You are contradicting yourself.

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They're bringing in minimum pricing for alcohol, another tax on the poor, and they've done it without saying what level it will be set at. In other words it all looks cosy beforehand, and they will ram us on implementation. Isn't that a nice way to represent our interests?


This isn't a tax on the poor, it's a tax on the sort of scumbags who sell plastic bottles of cider to school kids, for less money than a bottle of coca-cola.
Your dislike of this says much about you :shock:

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But then, I have to admit that the Nasties do have one tax reduction policy. They are set to reduce corporation tax. No guys, we don't pay corporation tax. Now, let me think who does? Ah yes, it's the Ropey Dopey Murdochs of this world. You know them, they're the big boys with shedloads of cash milked from the labour of workers. That's who will benefit from this Salmond wheeze.


It's not just the Murdoch's of this world who pay corporation tax.
Like it or not, Scotland has to attract new business to keep the population in work. More working means less being subsidised by the country.
20% of something is still better than 26% of nothing, which is what we get when they set up elsewhere in the UK.

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Wait a minute though. Who was salmond just seen cosying up to? Oh yes, it was old Ropey Dopey Murdoch himself.

And who has said they'll support Salmond? Ah yes, the comic called the SUN. Which just happens to be owned by Salmond's fotie buddie, old Ropey Dopey himself.


I don't remember you being so discriminating when you were talking to The News of the World a couple of years ago. :roll:

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isn't it time you guys got real? :roll:


Isn't it time you (or anyone else) said something positive about this union, which you claim benefits us so much?
Still not thought of anything? Maybe these two can help you out :badgrin:

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/s ... -1-2159192

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:01 pm 
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Well, perhaps the most positive thing about the Union is that it helps prevent the Scots people from being harmed by the Scot's clique.

You show me real independence and I'll consider it, probably favourably.

But I'm not going to have any part of faux-independence that subjects us to the yoke of faceless bureaucrats in Brussels.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:12 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
Well, perhaps the most positive thing about the Union is that it helps prevent the Scots people from being harmed by the Scot's clique.


It doesn't stop us being harmed by the UK clique.

If we reject independence, it won't be in favour of the status quo.

South of the border, most believe we are subsidised by them, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary.
Labour and the liberals have shot themselves in the foot here, by failing to back up Scotlands true position.
The Tories have a vested interest in cutting our funding. They have little to loose and much to gain.
They want to scrap the Barnet formula and reduce the amount of money Westminster sends back across the border.
A no vote will just encorage them and we will get shafted as a result. Nothing is surer.

Pandora's box has been opened. Closing it again may prove impossible.

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