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Think I might just put 19%'er on mine. 8)

But you do realise to be up-to-date you will have to change it every month. :wink:

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No Fraud. They made an investment that turned sour, and cried foul, got compensated for their loss.

I agree that it is perfectly legal for LA's to delimit if they think fit.


So, as I asked above, what exactly is the parallel between Lloyd's names being bailed out and someone who bought a taxi plate being bailed out if the LA delimits.

Who bailed out the Lloyd's names and for what reason, and how does this equate to the taxi scenario?

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Could you explain the parallel?

I thougth there was fraud and suchlike involved with Lloyd's, so I don't really think it has any relevance to taxi plates. I mean it's always been perfectly legal for LAs to delimit if they think fit.


No Fraud. They made an investment that turned sour, and cried foul, got compensated for their loss.

I agree that it is perfectly legal for LA's to delimit if they think fit.


Since 1986 Every LA by law is delimited. They can only limit numbers if they actively partake in a legal process. So your reference about being perfectly legal for them to de limit is perhaps misleading when in fact the case is that they are only allowed to limit numbers if they go through the required legal process that allows them to keep a limit on numbers.

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Could you explain the parallel?

I thougth there was fraud and suchlike involved with Lloyd's, so I don't really think it has any relevance to taxi plates. I mean it's always been perfectly legal for LAs to delimit if they think fit.


No Fraud. They made an investment that turned sour, and cried foul, got compensated for their loss.

I agree that it is perfectly legal for LA's to delimit if they think fit.


Since 1986 Every LA by law is delimited. They can only limit numbers if they actively partake in a legal process. So your reference about being perfectly legal for them to de limit is perhaps misleading when in fact the case is that they are only allowed to limit numbers if they go through the required legal process that allows them to keep a limit on numbers.

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Which has been done in some L.A's.

Did it spook you, my agreeing with you? Oh, well.

The parallel? The names made an "investment", and got their fingers burnt. Got compensation, why not plateholders getting compensated by L.A's that de-limit? Their "investment" would cease to exist because of a L.A's chamge of policy. Personally, I cannot see why L.A's do not AUCTION additional plates. Now there's a (NY) idea. :wink:


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Which has been done in some L.A's.

Not some Jimbo, most. :wink:

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jimbo wrote:

The parallel? The names made an "investment", and got their fingers burnt. Got compensation, why not plateholders getting compensated by L.A's that de-limit? Their "investment" would cease to exist because of a L.A's chamge of policy. Personally, I cannot see why L.A's do not AUCTION additional plates. Now there's a (NY) idea. :wink:


Couldn't you quote only the relevant part of the previous post jimbo so that we know exactly what you're replying to - you seem to be replying to me here regarding a separate post?

Anyway, I'm still not sure about the parallel precisely - how exactly did the names get their fingers burnt and who financed their bailing out?

I mean, if you stick your hand in the fire then you can hardly expect sympathy if your fingers get burnt, surely?

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Which has been done in some L.A's.

Not some Jimbo, most. :wink:


But not mine. Or yours.


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So, you happen to believe, people should, well what, exactly?

Be offered exactly the same opportunities as others.

Be able to license a cab if they wish, without having to pay someone tens of thousands for something that was given away by the council for nothing.

But if they want to run a PH, or just journey a taxi, then good luck to them.

But it should be down to them, not down to anyone else.


well said sussex !!!!!!!!!!


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My own example. When I first got my 'bill' many years ago. I needed to earn as I had done the 'K' full time. Luckily mummy kept me, but I had still had depts to pay. I did hours. Starting at 2 or 3 pm untill the same am. I was young and had the stamina to do this.

Nowdays as a 'part-timer' I do maybe 7 hours each time I go out. I do a lot of ranking as I have loads of books that I need to read.

I know that there are many 'butters' that having purchased cabs, homes, do the 16 hours a shift.

If the working hours regulation comes about. There will be a long line going to the bankrupcy court.

I think before the imaginations start running wild here, it may just be the case that as a self emplyed person / driver, u would be free to work as many hours as u choose, different story if u are employed.


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But not mine. Or yours.

For the moment yes, but for how much longer? :wink:

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I think before the imaginations start running wild here, it may just be the case that as a self emplyed person / driver, u would be free to work as many hours as u choose, different story if u are employed.


Wasn't the intention a few years ago to extend the Working Time Directive to the self-employed as well?

I think they've now back-tracked on that (or at least put it on ice), but I suspect it wold be unenforceable anyway - only the ultra-scrupulous would adhere to it, and the rest would do as they did before.

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TDO wrote:
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I think before the imaginations start running wild here, it may just be the case that as a self emplyed person / driver, u would be free to work as many hours as u choose, different story if u are employed.


Wasn't the intention a few years ago to extend the Working Time Directive to the self-employed as well?

I think they've now back-tracked on that (or at least put it on ice), but I suspect it wold be unenforceable anyway - only the ultra-scrupulous would adhere to it, and the rest (of us) would do as they did before.


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Yes, very funny jimbo :lol:

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