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The Sefton hackney carriage trade proposed this £2 levy on all licenses after sefton council lost the Liverpool Crown Court case (A.19990450 29th February 2000) M. Holmes v Sefton MBC (appeal against sefton’s refusal to grant a hackney carriage licence)

When you consider that Sefton has hundreds more PH paying the £2 survey tax, than taxis, then the PH trade are paying up to 80% of the taxi survey into taxi demand.

Surely that is indefensible.

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IDFIMH

LOL LOL LOL LOL.

Sorry but this whole thing is in danger of being blown out of all proportion.

The defence is transparency, the defence is truth and honesty.

Whether the council levy a charge on the whole trade or just the taxi side is what is open for question and debate, not the councils motivation for applying a charge to everyone.

Also the other point that has been missed is that the PH representatives were apparently present at the meeting when this was decided, so the PH drivers should review who represents them if they don't agree with what was decided.

I wonder exactly how many of Sefton's PH drivers disagree with this levy, trying to second guess their opinion won't do either. Before people start condemning a council for their "open" actions perhaps someone should actually ask those paying this £2 what their opinions are on it.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

how many times have fees increased since 2000?

CC

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George Carlin

Mr Bolton has views regarding the £2 levy that he has aired over the last five to six years, he thinks that the majority of the trade both Private Hire and Hackney should concur to his way of thinking, if one small group where to control any given situation then accusations would be flying fast and thick and probably rightly so, Mr Bolton cannot accept the fact that he has not got his own way, but if he likes I will propose at the next liaison meeting that we go back to the old system and simply allow the council to use the Hackney and private hire trade as a cash cow

You should revert to the Manchester system, just hide it in the budget

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Heather McCartney?

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Exactly how many Hackney's do they have a Manchester
exactly how many private hire do they have
exactly how much do they pay
exactly how much do they receive in the driver's licence fees
and how much surplus profits do they make
and why doesn't JD do something about this
why does he allow them to use him as a cash cow

All good questions, now lets wait and see the answer

CC

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George Carlin

SODA had a clear mandate from PH drivers to reject the £2 levy and the committee was informed, they chose to ignore the objection of the only official association representing PH drivers at that time, the fact that sefton failed to survey PH drivers and ignore the objection would suggest that they refused the PH drivers meaningful consultation, therefore the £2 levy is illegal.

So Mr. T this is not about anyone not getting his own way, it is about 1,800 PH drivers being well and truly stitched by sefton council and HC associations, the fact that you are very confident, that a HC proposal is all that is needed to make sefton listen at the next liaison meeting, highlights what the PH trade think of the so called liaison meetings, that sefton
Council will always act at the behest of the HC trade.

Please make your proposal at the next liaison meeting that we go back to the old system, just change the last bit to, preventing the Hackney Carriage using the Private Hire trade as a cash cow.

Would any proposal be your opinion or your member’s opinion?

They did not choose to ignore your objection they considered it then rejected it, you have already stated that you represent the private hire drivers . so therefore they had meaningful consultation.

I do not for one minute believe that you represent 1800 drivers..

No one has been well and truly stitched up , the only thing that has happened is that your point of a view was rejected.

Didn't Sefton council ask all representatives of Taxi and Private hire associations to supply evidence of how many members they represented and to a man you all declined? lol

I can understand why you were shy about divulging such information but why did the other reps decline?

JD

a little knowledge often leads to the wrong conclusions

Bolton .................... did your group get consulted by Sefton on this issue?

There is to much of this "toys out the pram" crying when things don't go peoples way attitude here.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't appeal against the decision, but I am saying that your appeal needs to be based on truth and fact.

From an outside point of view the whole saga is confusing, as is your argument.

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

I'll put it another way. Wasn't it proposed at one of these liaison meetings that represented organisations should supply evidence of their membership and everyone to a man declined?

I notice by your reply that there is some substance in my revelation.

JD