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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:23 pm 
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Cabbies express anger at 'rank insult'

Cabbies are to be told to stay in their taxis at ranks in case they make Preston's streets look scruffy.

Now taxi drivers say they are considering legal action following the bombshell.

The demand is part of a raft of proposals put forward by licensing officials, which has sparked health fears among drivers who are considering taking legal action if they go through.

It would mean hackney carriage drivers could be forced to sit in cramped cabs for eight hours.

Coun David Hammond, who chairs the committee which will decide whether to bring in the plans, said that he was concerned about "the bad first impression" which would be created by crowds of cabbies gathering around the rank.

As part of the Code of Good Conduct, which is part of a new licensing policy currently out to consultation by the council, it says that at ranks "drivers shall, rank in an orderly manner and proceed along the rank in order and promptly, and remain in the vehicle."

Mark Selley, secretary of the Preston Hackney Carriage Association, said it would consider legal action if "unfair and inappropriate rules" were brought in as part of the changes.

He is due to meet Town Hall licensing officials to discuss the plans before the consultation cut-off point at January 19.

Taxi drivers already face bans on wearing sportswear, including Preston North End shirts, baseball caps and flip-flops. Female drivers are advised not to wear short skirts "for personal safety reasons," while men should not drive bare-chested.

Recently council bosses said they were considering banning taxi drivers from beeping their horns outside clients' addresses. Taxi firms said this move would put cabbies at risk.

Mr Selley said: "Airlines do not advocate you sitting in the same position for eight hours, so why should taxi drivers be expected to do so in cramped conditions?

"We are not proposing locking the cab up and going to the pub, we are talking about stretching your legs and getting some fresh air.

"There seems to be a yawning chasm in understanding between those people doing the job and those making the rules."

Driver Peter Tyson said it appeared the council had taken another authority's policy on taxis and was trying to "shoe-horn it into Preston".

He said: "We are not opposed to change which makes things safer for drivers and customers and improves the image of the city, but I do not think that strapping people to the front seat of their cab is what is required to improve standards."

One hackney driver, who asked not to be named, said some drivers had voiced concerns about the possibility of drivers suffering from deep vein thrombosis from being sat in the same position for hours if they were banned from getting out of their vehicles.

Michael Rooney, who runs private hire firm Ribbleton Taxis, said the proposals were "another example of Preston Council not thinking things through".

He said: "It all seems a bit crazy to me, if someone is just having a cigarette or talking to the guy in the cab behind them, I do not see what the problem is.

"Are they going to start telling private hire drivers they cannot sit in our office when they are waiting for customers?"

Other suggestions put forward by the consultation include banning drivers from wearing "scruffy" football shirts, flip-flops and baseball caps and bringing cars more than 10 years old off the road.

A council spokesman said the proposal was still out to consultation and that no part of the plans were "set in stone" and could change following the consultation.

He said that plans to keep cabbies in their cars were down to security fears about leaving vehicles unattended on the rank.

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I got off at Preston Station last year and to say the Taxi fleet made Blackpool look like a vision of the future would be an understatement.


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So they can't smoke in their cabs because that is against the law and they can't get out of the cab either. Anyway, how are they going to assist passengers from inside the car?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:22 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
Other suggestions put forward by the consultation include banning drivers from wearing "scruffy" football shirts, flip-flops and baseball caps



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:33 pm 
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As part of the Code of Good Conduct, which is part of a new licensing policy currently out to consultation by the council,
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it says that at ranks "drivers shall, rank in an orderly manner and proceed along the rank in order and promptly,
and remain in the vehicle."


At the moment If a punter wants to take the one in the middle they can do so.
I just wish our council would bring in first cab on the rank its a nightmare here


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As part of the Code of Good Conduct, which is part of a new licensing policy currently out to consultation by the council, it says that at ranks "drivers shall, rank in an orderly manner and proceed along the rank in order and promptly, and remain in the vehicle."

Is that really so onerous? :?

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Recently council bosses said they were considering banning taxi drivers from beeping their horns outside clients' addresses. Taxi firms said this move would put cabbies at risk.

And there was me thinking that was illegal already? :?

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"Are they going to start telling private hire drivers they cannot sit in our office when they are waiting for customers?"

From my experience the drivers that sit in an office are the ones that earn the least.

Unless of course they're bonking the operator. :shock:

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the story has made the telegraph!

Taxi drivers to be ordered to stay in their cars in case they make city look untidy


A council is planning to order taxi drivers to stay inside their cabs while waiting for customers in case they make the streets look untidy.


Drivers said that they could be forced to sit in cramped conditions for up to eight hours a day if the new rule is brought in Officials in Preston, Lancs, have drawn up a new code of conduct which tells drivers not to congregate at taxi ranks chatting to colleagues while waiting for customers.

The councillor in charge of introducing the new rules believes the change is necessary in case the sight of taxi drivers chatting gives a bad impression of the city.

The proposed code of conduct, which is part of a new licensing policy currently under consultation, states that: "drivers shall, rank in an orderly manner and proceed along the rank in order and promptly, and remain in the vehicle."

Drivers said that they could be forced to sit in cramped conditions for up to eight hours a day if the new rule is brought in.

Cllr David Hammond, who chairs the committee which will decide whether to bring in the new code, said there was no intention of forcing drivers to stay in the cars for hours on end.

But he added: "It is about creating the right impression.

"If you arrive at Preston by train and go out of the railway station and see a line of cabs, that is the first impression you could get of the city of Preston ... what we don't want happening is drivers congregating five or six together and possibly blocking the footpath, I would think it doesn't give a good impression."

But Mark Selley, secretary of the Preston Hackney Carriage Association, said it would consider legal action if "unfair and inappropriate rules" were brought in.

"We are not proposing locking the cab up and going to the pub, we are talking about stretching your legs and getting some fresh air," he said.

"There seems to be a yawning chasm in understanding between those people doing the job and those making the rules."

Taxi drivers in the city already face restrictions on wearing sportswear and baseball caps while female drivers are advised not to wear short skirts.

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If you arrive at Preston by train and go out of the railway station


That station is on rail land!

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captain cab wrote:

while female drivers are advised not to wear short skirts.


Is there likely to be a protest against this rule similar to the one in Carry on Sergent?

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