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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:47 pm 
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well just been kicked out of the NTA. FOR NOT PAYING WHAT THEY ARE WOTH

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 Post subject: Re: OPPS
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well just been kiked out of the NTA. FOR NOT PAYING WHAT THEY ARE WOTH

Oh dear, exactly how much are they woth? :D

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will if would appear more than i payed. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: OPPS
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charles007 wrote:
well just been kicked out of the NTA. FOR NOT PAYING WHAT THEY ARE WOTH


Northern Tossers Anonymous?
National Tiddlywinks Assoc?
Nottingham and Trent Anglers?

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 Post subject: Re: well
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will if would appear more than i payed. :mrgreen:

Could you have not come to an agreement where you operate a sort of 'pay as you go' scheme? :?

Or is it they just don't like you? :?

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 Post subject: Re: OPPS
PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:34 pm 
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charles007 wrote:
well just been kicked out of the NTA. FOR NOT PAYING WHAT THEY ARE WOTH


Well if you don't pay, why should you get a service?

If I don't renew my household insurance and I get burgled, would Norwich Union pay out?

No.

Could I then come onto a forum and claim 'I've been kicked out'?

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 Post subject: hi
PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:07 am 
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My association was going though a rough patch, i am a large asociation and was left by some of the members with a legual bill £4.500 to pay.

I told the region director that it would be shorted by he end f this last year and it was.

yes hey did not like me, i am outspocen and thy did not like what i said.

I AM A FREE ASSOCIATION UNLESS DRIVERS WANT TO PAY OR THE NTA

and yes what service.

and they have lost more then £3000 pound this year they been trying to get me out, the only thing is i am in all places which will not now be in well that is there discion not mine.

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 Post subject: Re: hi
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My association was going though a rough patch, i am a large asociation and was left by some of the members with a legal bill £4.500 to pay.


Just as a matter of interest was the legal bill down to a failed court action, possibly an appeal and if so what were the circumstances?

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the bill was for a spell checker...

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the bill was for a spell checker...


I hope it came with a guarantee.

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 Post subject: Re: hi
PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:34 pm 
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I AM A FREE ASSOCIATION UNLESS DRIVERS WANT TO PAY OR THE NTA


Regretably there is no such thing as a free meal, all associations and unions have to charge to provide a service. At the end of the day I have found that drivers don't mind paying, if they receive a service that is value for money.

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 Post subject: Re: hi
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charles007 wrote:
I AM A FREE ASSOCIATION UNLESS DRIVERS WANT TO PAY OR THE NTA


Regretably there is no such thing as a free meal, all associations and unions have to charge to provide a service. At the end of the day I have found that drivers don't mind paying, if they receive a service that is value for money.

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I think you might find drivers are reluctant to pay regardless of how good or bad a service might be? That is purely my opinion of course but I might be persuaded to change my mind should ever my goodwill and generosity of spirit become violated? lol

I would dearly wish to know what advice Mr Charles was given that saw him the poorer by some four thousand pounds?

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 Post subject: Re: hi
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I would dearly wish to know what advice Mr Charles was given that saw him the poorer by some four thousand pounds?


I told him to take a Taxi from Euston to Victoria Station. :D


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:55 pm 
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let me apologise for my grammer and spelling obviously i am a little bit dyslexic, but i can assure you if you think its bad now you should of read my letters when i started.I do use a spell checker and grammer which is on the computer but its permantly set on english US and no matter what we do we cannot get it onto english UK.No i'm afraid my face does not fit within the framework they seem to be intent, all year in getrid of me.
One of the councils which i was representing though not at the time that a policy was brought in at the request of the trade that all vehicles brought onto te fleet after January 2006 must be 3yrs or less, they did not put an upper age limit but brought in a policy that any vehicle over 10 yrs that failed on more than 5 faults would not be re-licensed.
This was fine until the first cab over 10 yrs failed and the drivers realised he then had to put a 3yr old vehicle on, let me point out at this stage that vehicles was also tested 3 times a year.
Two years ago I took over the local taxi assocation and was reqested to do something about the 5 fault policy, I was also given a mandate to take legal action against the council by the Association committee.
After a lot of twoing and throwing we took the local council to court there was no winners, no losers, each paying their own though we did because of the comments of the district judge some changes as a result
(1) We got a review of the criteria of the 5 faults policy where many items where taken out
(2) We managed to reduced tests from 3 a yr to 2 a yr
(3) because of some critisism over the testing station the council as agreed to appoint 2 further testing stations
All these changes came about as a direct result of that case,the members however felt they had lost and did not cough up payment and that is why i was lumbered with that bill. :sad:
I however take on board comments about you can't have the service but the reverse is also, you cannot expect payment for no service, I have been both a criticiser and a supporter of the NTA, my views are unwelcomed, after time we only deal with National issues wears thinwith the members and you struggle to justify the costs.BETRAYED TODAY needs to know what they will get out of it???
The other major National Assocaitions and Unions give members benefit of some sort or another and more important deals with local issues NTA seems not to understand that not all members want to be in the NTA, and until they change they are unlikely to gain members they do have some good officers especially in Carlisle and it is a total shame and waste of good talent that they can't see as far as the end of their nose , they have lost our fees this year which would of totalled over £3000 from the trade I was secretary and treasurer of region 5&6 and gos to show that i am told over the phone by the same person who wellcomed me back just gos to show. well the fact is I am no longer a member ,the chairman knew fullwell the hopeless position i was in I both delivered agendas,minutes on time without and this is the best part under the regional rules I should of been entitled to £200 per yr to which none of the committe to my knowledge got because of lack of funds because of lack of interest because of lack of members yet they use the excuse you have not paid your full subs well i will leave it up to you ladies/gentleman to decide whether I deserved to be treated in such a way. :evil:

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I would just like to say thank you for explaining the details surrounding the court case. Realistically I suppose vehicles of any age could accumulate five minor faults could they not?

It would appear to me that the policy was flawed from the outset and should never have been introduced if it didn't apply retrospectively to vehicles of all ages.

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