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Author:  captain cab [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:32 pm ]
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Birmingham PH with criminal record allowed to keep job


MAGISTRATES have ruled that a Birmingham man with a history of drug-taking, harrassment, motoring offences and a conviction for possession of an offensive weapon is fit to drive a cab.

The bizarre appeal ruling has been slammed by city licensing chiefs who had earlier refused his private hire driver application because of his criminal record.

But magistrates overturned the decision by the City Council licensing committee to refuse driver Irfan Khalid, of Ralph Road, Saltley, because they said his references had not been properly considered and that he needed a second chance.

But licensing committee vice-chairman Coun Bruce Lines (Cons, Bartley Green) said: “I’m gobsmacked at this decision.

“What kind of message does it send out about cab drivers in Birmingham?

‘‘It is not as if he has offences in one specific area, they are across the board, drugs, an offensive weapon, motoring.

‘‘How can this man be suitable?”

Chairman Coun David Osborn (Lib Dem, South Yardley) agreed and said: “It is unbelievable.

‘‘I would suggest we appeal against this, but I am told we have run out of time.”

The committee was told that magistrates viewed the driver as a reformed character and felt obliged to give him a chance under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act.

Although the appeal was allowed, legal costs were not awarded against the City Council.
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Birmingham PH with criminal record allowed to keep job
captain cab wrote:
But magistrates overturned the decision by the City Council licensing committee to refuse driver Irfan Khalid, of Ralph Road, Saltley, because they said his references had not been properly considered and that he needed a second chance.

But licensing committee vice-chairman Coun Bruce Lines (Cons, Bartley Green) said: “I’m gobsmacked at this decision.

If your officials checked his references then the court wouldn't have been able to use that reason, and the mush wouldn't have won his appeal.

i.e. your lot f***ed up, so sort them out. :shock:
Author:  captain cab [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Birmingham PH with criminal record allowed to keep job
Sussex wrote:
captain cab wrote:
But magistrates overturned the decision by the City Council licensing committee to refuse driver Irfan Khalid, of Ralph Road, Saltley, because they said his references had not been properly considered and that he needed a second chance.

But licensing committee vice-chairman Coun Bruce Lines (Cons, Bartley Green) said: “I’m gobsmacked at this decision.

If your officials checked his references then the court wouldn't have been able to use that reason, and the mush wouldn't have won his appeal.

i.e. your lot f***ed up, so sort them out. :shock:


got to agree....they cant even get the appeal right

Quote:
‘‘I would suggest we appeal against this, but I am told we have run out of time.”


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Author:  wannabeeahack [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:44 pm ]
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sounds like just the man for the late night passengers, whose gonna pull a knife on HIM?
Author:  toots [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:52 pm ]
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Perhaps something a little more than 'Fit & Proper' should now be used for would be taxi drivers.

It's obvious that having a criminal record doesn't prevent you from being licenced and in some cases it shouldn't. Which brings me to my next point of what you think are acceptable crimes that could not prevent you from being licenced and what should prevent you from being licenced.

I hate the fact that they leave things so wide open to abuse. Wtf is 'fit & proper'
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:06 pm ]
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toots wrote:
It's obvious that having a criminal record doesn't prevent you from being licenced and in some cases it shouldn't. Which brings me to my next point of what you think are acceptable crimes that could not prevent you from being licenced and what should prevent you from being licenced.

I think the level or seriousness of any crime has got to be mitigated by how long ago they happened.
Author:  Stationtone [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:31 pm ]
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I was told recently that the rehabilitation act does not apply to taxi drivers
http://www.lawontheweb.co.uk/rehabact.htm
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:12 pm ]
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stationtone wrote:
I was told recently that the rehabilitation act does not apply to taxi drivers
http://www.lawontheweb.co.uk/rehabact.htm

I agree, but that shouldn't really effect any council decision. All it does is allow a council to make an informed one.
Author:  captain cab [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:14 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:
stationtone wrote:
I was told recently that the rehabilitation act does not apply to taxi drivers
http://www.lawontheweb.co.uk/rehabact.htm

I agree, but that shouldn't really effect any council decision. All it does is allow a council to make an informed one.


would all the council have to have said be we have considered the references but do not consider you fit and proper?

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Author:  Sussex [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:20 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
would all the council have to have said be we have considered the references but do not consider you fit and proper?

FFS you are starting to read like Charlie boy now? :roll: :roll:
Author:  captain cab [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:23 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:
captain cab wrote:
would all the council have to have said be we have considered the references but do not consider you fit and proper?

FFS you are starting to read like Charlie boy now? :roll: :roll:


pmsl....I'll rephrase that;

would saying we have considered the references but do not consider you fit and proper have covered the council?

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Author:  toots [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:23 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:
captain cab wrote:
would all the council have to have said be we have considered the references but do not consider you fit and proper?

FFS you are starting to read like Charlie boy now? :roll: :roll:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's cos he spends too much time arguing with him
Author:  captain cab [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:24 pm ]
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toots wrote:
Sussex wrote:
captain cab wrote:
would all the council have to have said be we have considered the references but do not consider you fit and proper?

FFS you are starting to read like Charlie boy now? :roll: :roll:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's cos he spends too much time arguing with him


as Jim said.....its like arguing with the village idiot :lol:

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Author:  wannabeeahack [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:25 pm ]
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Im glad its not a matter for an MP to decide who is fit and proper, what with house expense fiddles, pay to view porn, shagging in the house of commons, etc, etc, etc

fit and proper?
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:26 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
toots wrote:
Sussex wrote:
captain cab wrote:
would all the council have to have said be we have considered the references but do not consider you fit and proper?

FFS you are starting to read like Charlie boy now? :roll: :roll:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's cos he spends too much time arguing with him


as Jim said.....its like arguing with the village idiot :lol:

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oh thats right, drag me into it
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