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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:36 am 
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Londons public carriage office have surely lost the plot, as they are now consulting on a proposal to license solo motor-cycles as private-hire vehicles........perhaps someone can explain ? how do you get a w.a.v.
solo motor-cycle perhaps the DFT can provide an answer :? :? :?

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:50 am 
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sorry peeps, forgot to post link...www.tfl.gov.uk/pco consultations

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:17 pm 
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Do private hire need to be WAV?

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:51 pm 
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D.Glave wrote:
Londons public carriage office have surely lost the plot, as they are now consulting on a proposal to license solo motor-cycles as private-hire vehicles........perhaps someone can explain ? how do you get a w.a.v.
solo motor-cycle perhaps the DFT can provide an answer :? :? :?



Considering 98% of London Minicabs are not W.A.V, I'm not sure why motorcycles would bother you? :?


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according to the proposed DFT wav consultation all hackneys and private -hire should be wheelchair accesible.Considering that 75% of all londons disability journeys are undertaken by the private-hire industry,then how can a solo motor-cycle fit into this regime,perhaps the cash raised could be a consideration ,secondly as London currently permits solo m/cycles to use bus lanes,how will the sudden influx of m/cs
affect, also how will these be identified for camera greedy councils and other revenue collectors.

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D.Glave wrote:
according to the proposed DFT wav consultation all hackneys and private -hire should be wheelchair accesible.

I think the current proposals/consultations are aiming at 100% WAV taxis, but in time who knows?

As for the bikes, how they can be accepted as a safe form of paid transport I don't know.

I know Leeds tried it out, and in time they binned it.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:28 pm 
I can see similarities to the French film Taxi emerging here when needing to get to the airport. :mrgreen:


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D.Glave wrote:
according to the proposed DFT wav consultation all hackneys and private -hire should be wheelchair accesible.Considering that 75% of all londons disability journeys are undertaken by the private-hire industry,then how can a solo motor-cycle fit into this regime,perhaps the cash raised could be a consideration ,secondly as London currently permits solo m/cycles to use bus lanes,how will the sudden influx of m/cs
affect, also how will these be identified for camera greedy councils and other revenue collectors.


Not on Taxi Card they're not.

So Don are you telling us the GMB now wish all of London's Minicabs to conform to the standards of WAV's?

This will be interesting, I can see your members being over the moon having to trade up from their Y reg Avensis cars, to a £25k VW Transporter or Mercedes Viano that takes wheelchairs.

I can just see Fred Keen or John Griffens face when that one is passed. :D


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On a personal note, I'd love to see all of London's Minicabs riding 'Minicab Motorcycles', that would stop their touting pronto.


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1. com.cab currently pass most of their disability work to the private hire companies as they are un-able to meet target times,or the drivers are reluctant to undertake such work.
2.regions membership decide policy for themselves.
3.could depend on what concesions are offered.
4.both gentlemen have had a variety of new or nearly new wavs for several years.

perhaps the black cab trade can play catch-up with the most modern private-hire fleet that exists in London,or are the p l. m.n.registrations for de-regulated private drivers..........glass half empty again!
8) 8)

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D.Glave wrote:
1. com.cab currently pass most of their disability work to the private hire companies as they are un-able to meet target times,or the drivers are reluctant to undertake such work.
2.regions membership decide policy for themselves.
3.could depend on what concesions are offered.
4.both gentlemen have had a variety of new or nearly new wavs for several years.

perhaps the black cab trade can play catch-up with the most modern private-hire fleet that exists in London,or are the p l. m.n.registrations for de-regulated private drivers..........glass half empty again!
8) 8)


Where do you get this information from please?

My mother who lives in Hendon, North London and my mother in law who lives in Shepherds Bush both have taxi card's and over the last year when requesting a taxi a PHV has been turning up instead, as they have family in the trade they prefer to give their business to the licensed TAXI trade and now when booking request (demand) a Taxi, not a PHV.

On the LTDF i remember reading about a comcab subscriber dropping a Taxicard passenger off in Camberwell and asking the passenger if she was planning to book a Taxi to return home, the passenger replied yes, in about an hour or so. Being a good job, taking the driver near to his home area he booked into SE5, plotted up and was the only Comcab Taxi in that location booked in.

Whilst waiting for the job to come through, after about an hour he noticed a PHV arrive and pick that same passenger up? Our mate decides to ask the lady what was occuring and was told by her as they couldnt cover the job in a Taxi an alternative "car" would be used!!! :?


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D.Glave wrote:
1. com.cab currently pass most of their disability work to the private hire companies as they are un-able to meet target times,or the drivers are reluctant to undertake such work.
2.regions membership decide policy for themselves.
3.could depend on what concesions are offered.
4.both gentlemen have had a variety of new or nearly new wavs for several years.

perhaps the black cab trade can play catch-up with the most modern private-hire fleet that exists in London,or are the p l. m.n.registrations for de-regulated private drivers..........glass half empty again!
8) 8)





When your members can speak English and know where they are going without a Sat-Nav, they'll stand half a chance of being referred to as cab drivers. But that is not going to happen, the better ones are too busy trying to get on the Knowledge to become proper London Taxi drivers.

A 1996 P Reg LTI Taxi which is overhauled and inspected every year will outlast a P reg Astra (Nice :? ) that the likes of Haringey Cars have lined up outside their office.

As for GMB policy. :D

Restrict . . De-Restrict . . PH tests . . No PH tests . . Driver numbers capped . . no driver numbers capped . . . age limit . . . no age limit . . NVQ . . . No to NVQ's

You are all from under the same umbrella aren’t you?

The extra from Grease needs to teach his Marxist troops to start singing from the same hymn sheet, mind you that would be a lot of translations.


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csp wrote:
Where do you get this information from please?



Get an invasion force from the LTDF to come over and question the Minicab rep. :wink:


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hello GBC as stated your glass is always half empty!however as you do not admit drivers into your small club we in the drivers union are always listening to our members concerns...it is strange that you never seem to give a direct answer to any point made,you prefer to prevaricate and bluster ?can you tell me what response should be given to csp as i believe that the com-cab driver may have been guilty of cherry picking !!
at a recent meeting at penton st a survey of cabs having a sat nav device
fitted to the windscreen 72 out of 103 black cabs had them in situ,another point is that as we have probably the most diverse populus in a major city isnt it nice to offer overseas visitors the chance to converse in various languages........hope your keeping well

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Where do you get this information from please?

lets try again... :roll:


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