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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:09 am ] |
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Taxi Age Proposals Anger Drivers 7th July 2009 Hundreds of taxi drivers in Leeds are expected to demonstrate against new regulations for their vehicles. Leeds City Council is due to make a decision on proposals to reduce the maximum age of hire cars from eight to six years on Tuesday. Under the plans any cabs that are more than six years old will have to undergo an inspection which drivers have said will be an extra financial burden. The council has said the measures will improve safety for the public. It said the plans were sparked by the "high number of vehicles currently failing checks". Bill Chard of the GMB union said: "I sincerely hope that the council have been listening to the constructive arguments that we have put to them, if not then we are on a direct collision course." Javaid Akhtar, President of the Leeds Private Hire branch of the GMB Union, said if the policy went through union members would take "serious action". Source; news.bbc.co.uk |
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| Author: | toots [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:18 am ] |
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Quote: union members would take "serious action".
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| Author: | captain cab [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:30 am ] |
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toots wrote: Quote: union members would take "serious action". Such as Buy newer cars to do their jobs I guess 
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| Author: | toots [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:11 pm ] |
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captain cab wrote: toots wrote: Quote: union members would take "serious action". Such as Buy newer cars to do their jobs I guess CC Result 
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:28 pm ] |
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captain cab wrote: toots wrote: Quote: union members would take "serious action". Such as Quote: Buy newer cars to do their jobs I guess CC Yes nice shiny YELLOW Skodas |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:42 pm ] |
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toots wrote: Quote: union members would take "serious action". Such as Whatever it is I doubt it will be the 'take it up the ar**' approach favoured by most other unions/associations. |
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| Author: | toots [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:59 pm ] |
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Sussex wrote: toots wrote: Quote: union members would take "serious action". Such as Whatever it is I doubt it will be the 'take it up the ar**' approach favoured by most other unions/associations. Will it make a difference do you think? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:01 pm ] |
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toots wrote: Will it make a difference do you think?
If I was a councillor would I rather a taxi/PH trade that rolled over and took it where I said previously, or a taxi/PH trade that didn't and fought back? The lads might not win their fight, but at least they will have tried. |
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| Author: | toots [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:08 pm ] |
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Sussex wrote: toots wrote: Will it make a difference do you think? If I was a councillor would I rather a taxi/PH trade that rolled over and took it where I said previously, or a taxi/PH trade that didn't and fought back? The lads might not win their fight, but at least they will have tried. The more I see taxis getting shafted the more I think that there should be single tier taxis that can if a customer wishes be phoned up and booked through an office. Obviously the vehicle issue is a problem and needs to be resolved. I think as time progresses more and more individual taxi owners will eventually join an office for work which again makes the 2 tier system a waste of time 
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:22 pm ] |
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D-Day For 6-year Age Limit On Leeds Taxis Plan 7th July 2009 A crunch meeting of licencing bosses today was expected to push through a controversial new six-year age limit for Leeds's taxis. Bosses want to drop the age limit for private hire and Hackney carriage vehicles to six years from eight. Cars over six years old would have to go through rigorous annual tests to be allowed back on the road. Drivers must also keep pristine service records. They face prosecution and huge fines if they don't comply with the tougher safety rules. The proposed overhaul has led to a chorus of disapproval from the trade, with one consultation meeting last month turning into chaos as more than 500 drivers turned up. The meeting was eventually abandoned, A petition signed by 600 drivers has now been presented to the council. Many drivers believe the new restrictions are harsh compared to other cities and fear increased costs could send many of them out of business. However as reported in the YEP last month, hundreds of Leeds cars failed rigorous council-enforced safety tests, which led to the new proposals being drawn. Today, despite the objections, licencing bosses were due to rubber stamp the proposals. However they have conducted a minor u-turn on the original plans. The post-six-year tests will now be done once a year rather than twice, and the cost will drop from £60 to £30. Despite the change, taxi representatives are determined to halt the overhaul process. Javed Akhtar, who chairs the Leeds Private Hire Association and was due to speak at today's meeting, urged licencing bosses to "use common sense and reject this policy". He insisted the standards being applied in Leeds were unnecessarily harsh and said a passenger survey of 700 people, done by drivers, had resulted in a 100 per cent approval rating. Despite the ongoing debate, licencing chiefs say safety is paramount and are warning drivers they will be prosecuted if they don't comply. Officers insist the new rules are "not a big change in respect of drivers" adding: "We have often prosecuted them whilst on the roads but have become alarmed at the dangerous state of vehicles being presented for inspection". The YEP reported last months that just 138 of 740 private hire cars which were ordered to attend the council-enforced MOT-type test had passed first time. Just 27 out of 115 Hackney carriage cabs were declared fit for service and 859 'fail' marks were recorded on 473 cars. Council leader councillor Richard Brett said the figures were "frightening" and defended the licencing overhaul. If pushed through, the new procedures will come into effect immediately. Source; yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:39 pm ] |
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This whole mess was created by pi** poor licensing officers falling to do their jobs. If there are so many bad guys out their why are they still driving? So the LOs failed and the whole of the trade is suffering, and an age limit is being introduced when the country is financially on it's knees. This could only happen in a licensing area where the councillors are ruled by the LOs. 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:52 pm ] |
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Shall we call it a score draw?
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:08 pm ] |
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Quote: Drivers must also keep pristine service records.
However as reported in the YEP last month, hundreds of Leeds cars failed rigorous council-enforced safety tests, which led to the new proposals being drawn. He insisted the standards being applied in Leeds were unnecessarily harsh and said a passenger survey of 700 people, done by drivers, had resulted in a 100 per cent approval rating. Officers insist the new rules are "not a big change in respect of drivers" adding: "We have often prosecuted them whilst on the roads but have become alarmed at the dangerous state of vehicles being presented for inspection". The YEP reported last months that just 138 of 740 private hire cars which were ordered to attend the council-enforced MOT-type test had passed first time. Just 27 out of 115 Hackney carriage cabs were declared fit for service and 859 'fail' marks were recorded on 473 cars. Council leader councillor Richard Brett said the figures were "frightening" and defended the licencing overhaul. It appears that most drivers in Leeds adopt a similar policy to many in Brum, in that they do not prepare their vehicles for inspection & rely on the MOT inspector to identify what repairs need doing to the vehicle. They then only carry out those repairs that are necessary, as identified by the vehicle inspector, hoping to save money. In the meantime, these dangerous vehicles are carrying fare paying passengers. Leeds drivers have only themselves to blame for these new age limits. But there are other ways to make them conform; Pristine service records, with original bills quoting the vehicle registration number, to back up that the work has been done. More than three faults at inspection & the plate gets screwed off & a re-test fee of £400 is charged. More than five faults at inspection & all of the above, plus one month driver's licence suspension. That might make them think about keeping their vehicles up to standard. |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:44 pm ] |
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: Quote: Drivers must also keep pristine service records. However as reported in the YEP last month, hundreds of Leeds cars failed rigorous council-enforced safety tests, which led to the new proposals being drawn. He insisted the standards being applied in Leeds were unnecessarily harsh and said a passenger survey of 700 people, done by drivers, had resulted in a 100 per cent approval rating. Officers insist the new rules are "not a big change in respect of drivers" adding: "We have often prosecuted them whilst on the roads but have become alarmed at the dangerous state of vehicles being presented for inspection". The YEP reported last months that just 138 of 740 private hire cars which were ordered to attend the council-enforced MOT-type test had passed first time. Just 27 out of 115 Hackney carriage cabs were declared fit for service and 859 'fail' marks were recorded on 473 cars. Council leader councillor Richard Brett said the figures were "frightening" and defended the licencing overhaul. It appears that most drivers in Leeds adopt a similar policy to many in Brum, in that they do not prepare their vehicles for inspection & rely on the MOT inspector to identify what repairs need doing to the vehicle. They then only carry out those repairs that are necessary, as identified by the vehicle inspector, hoping to save money. In the meantime, these dangerous vehicles are carrying fare paying passengers. Leeds drivers have only themselves to blame for these new age limits. But there are other ways to make them conform; Pristine service records, with original bills quoting the vehicle registration number, to back up that the work has been done. More than three faults at inspection & the plate gets screwed off & a re-test fee of £400 is charged. More than five faults at inspection & all of the above, plus one month driver's licence suspension. That might make them think about keeping their vehicles up to standard. And they must buy a new vehicle when the other comes off
The problem with most taxis and PH down there is they are owned by Asians, and they are used to repairing things in back st garages and making the bits they need just like in that sky program where they take a heap of junk and make it into something usable |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:54 pm ] |
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skippy41 wrote: Brummie Cabbie wrote: Quote: Drivers must also keep pristine service records. However as reported in the YEP last month, hundreds of Leeds cars failed rigorous council-enforced safety tests, which led to the new proposals being drawn. He insisted the standards being applied in Leeds were unnecessarily harsh and said a passenger survey of 700 people, done by drivers, had resulted in a 100 per cent approval rating. Officers insist the new rules are "not a big change in respect of drivers" adding: "We have often prosecuted them whilst on the roads but have become alarmed at the dangerous state of vehicles being presented for inspection". The YEP reported last months that just 138 of 740 private hire cars which were ordered to attend the council-enforced MOT-type test had passed first time. Just 27 out of 115 Hackney carriage cabs were declared fit for service and 859 'fail' marks were recorded on 473 cars. Council leader councillor Richard Brett said the figures were "frightening" and defended the licencing overhaul. It appears that most drivers in Leeds adopt a similar policy to many in Brum, in that they do not prepare their vehicles for inspection & rely on the MOT inspector to identify what repairs need doing to the vehicle. They then only carry out those repairs that are necessary, as identified by the vehicle inspector, hoping to save money. In the meantime, these dangerous vehicles are carrying fare paying passengers. Leeds drivers have only themselves to blame for these new age limits. But there are other ways to make them conform; Pristine service records, with original bills quoting the vehicle registration number, to back up that the work has been done. More than three faults at inspection & the plate gets screwed off & a re-test fee of £400 is charged. More than five faults at inspection & all of the above, plus one month driver's licence suspension. That might make them think about keeping their vehicles up to standard. And they must buy a new vehicle when the other comes off The problem with most taxis and PH down there is they are owned by Asians, and they are used to repairing things in back st garages and making the bits they need just like in that sky program where they take a heap of junk and make it into something usable And what that breeds is a poor or very poor standard of taxi repair garage in the given area. Indeed this is the case in Brum; most garages repair to a poor standard. But go 20 or so miles down the road from Brum & you have Coventry, which has a very much stricter standard of licensing all round. The result is that their taxi repair garages are of a far higher standard than most in Brum & that is where I have my cab work done, as do many other cabbies from Brum. |
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