skippy41 wrote:
Don't B&H know drivers can get the course for free??????????????
Come on BB time for action
Come on BB time for action
New drivers know have to pay due to the gov having run out of cash.
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Brighton plate baron wants less standards thus more drivers. |
Higher fees leave Brighton cabbie jobs unfilled Taxi driver jobs are not being filled because the fees for extra qualifications are so high. Brighton and Hove City Council introduced new rules meaning taxi drivers have to complete a BTEC qualification, costing £250. Drivers already have to pay up to £200 for the knowledge test of the city’s road, £90 for a private medical examination and £69 to the Driving Standards Agency for their licence. Barry Levene who runs the Knowledge School, in New Church Road Hove, training Brighton and Hove cabbies jobs could not be filled because new drivers have to sit “degree style” examinations before they start work. Mr Levene said: "It has almost doubled the cost of becoming a taxi driver. Almost all the taxi firms in the city have vacancies for daytime drivers, but they can't fill them because it costs so much to get started." Mr Levene, who runs five cabs, said two of them were currently off the road because he needed four people to pass the test before they could drive them. He said: The tests are unbelievable, nearly as difficult as doing a degree, all just to drive a taxi around Brighton and Hove. There are lots and lots of people trying to do it, who keep failing. There are jobs out there but who can afford that if they're out of work? It's about the only job I know of where you can't just apply for it." A spokeswoman for Brighton and Hove City Council said: “All new taxi and private hire drivers in the city are now required to take a BTEC level two course before starting work. “The BTEC is a nationally recognised and professional qualification which was introduced at the beginning of October. “ The course takes two days to complete and costs £250. Drivers can pay the fees over a three month period once they start training.” |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:57 pm ] |
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Don't B&H know drivers can get the course for free?????????????? Come on BB time for action |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:03 pm ] |
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skippy41 wrote: Don't B&H know drivers can get the course for free??????????????
Come on BB time for action New drivers know have to pay due to the gov having run out of cash.
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:06 pm ] |
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Sussex wrote: skippy41 wrote: Don't B&H know drivers can get the course for free?????????????? Come on BB time for action New drivers know have to pay due to the gov having run out of cash. Well the barons my have go out and work to find out how bad it really is for once
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brighton plate baron wants less standards thus more driv |
Sussex wrote: Barry Levene who runs the Knowledge School, in New Church Road Hove, training Brighton and Hove cabbies jobs could not be filled because new drivers have to sit “degree style” examinations before they start work.
Mr Levene said: "It has almost doubled the cost of becoming a taxi driver. Almost all the taxi firms in the city have vacancies for daytime drivers, but they can't fill them because it costs so much to get started." Mr Levene, who runs five cabs, said two of them were currently off the road because he needed four people to pass the test before they could drive them. He said: The tests are unbelievable, nearly as difficult as doing a degree, all just to drive a taxi around Brighton and Hove. There are lots and lots of people trying to do it, who keep failing. There are jobs out there but who can afford that if they're out of work? It's about the only job I know of where you can't just apply for it." If ever (and it has never happened, nor do I expect it will) I question why I'm fighting the cause that I am, then I will just read those words from that particular B&H plate baron. 
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| Author: | toots [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:57 pm ] |
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Perhaps if Mr Levene wants drivers for his cabs he should front the Btec costs for them. I think you will find that the reason drivers have to pay for the Btec is not because funding run out but because LA's made them compulsary. When something becomes complusary the offer of free funding is no more. |
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| Author: | meltingsmoke [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:03 pm ] |
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Oh what a shame, 5 plates baron. May be because there’s not enough daytime work to pay you for driving one of your 5 plated cars |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:48 pm ] |
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Quote: all just to drive a taxi around Brighton and Hove. Spoken like a true baron. Doesn't give a stuff about standards, so long as somebody is paying the rentals. My heart bleeds for him  Quote: There are lots and lots of people trying to do it, who keep failing.
This I suspect is the real reason why he can't get new jockeys. £250 isn't that much of an investment in the grand scheme of things, especially if they have three months to pay it up. Maybe those with enough commitment, savvy and command of the English language to pass, have already worked out that it just isn't worth it at the moment. Good to hear of quality control working. It has to be infinitely better than letting this guy and others like him rent motors to whoever comes off the boat next. |
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| Author: | brightonbreezy [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brighton plate baron wants less standards thus more driv |
Sussex wrote: Higher fees leave Brighton cabbie jobs unfilled
Taxi driver jobs are not being filled because the fees for extra qualifications are so high. Brighton and Hove City Council introduced new rules meaning taxi drivers have to complete a BTEC qualification, costing £250. Drivers already have to pay up to £200 for the knowledge test of the city’s road, £90 for a private medical examination and £69 to the Driving Standards Agency for their licence. Barry Levene who runs the Knowledge School, in New Church Road Hove, training Brighton and Hove cabbies jobs could not be filled because new drivers have to sit “degree style” examinations before they start work. Mr Levene said: "It has almost doubled the cost of becoming a taxi driver. Almost all the taxi firms in the city have vacancies for daytime drivers, but they can't fill them because it costs so much to get started." Mr Levene, who runs five cabs, said two of them were currently off the road because he needed four people to pass the test before they could drive them. He said: The tests are unbelievable, nearly as difficult as doing a degree, all just to drive a taxi around Brighton and Hove. There are lots and lots of people trying to do it, who keep failing. There are jobs out there but who can afford that if they're out of work? It's about the only job I know of where you can't just apply for it." A spokeswoman for Brighton and Hove City Council said: “All new taxi and private hire drivers in the city are now required to take a BTEC level two course before starting work. “The BTEC is a nationally recognised and professional qualification which was introduced at the beginning of October. “ The course takes two days to complete and costs £250. Drivers can pay the fees over a three month period once they start training.” The GMB Brighton & Hove Section of the GMB P39 Southern Region Professional Taxi Drivers Branch fully support the decision by Brighton & Hove Council to introduce the BTEC as part of the Brighton & Hove Knowledge. We considor our trade to be professional and any steps to improve standards has to be supported. We would suggest that if Mr Levene is having problems assisting individuals to pass the knowledge that he considors changing his teaching technique. There are three other schools in Brighton who are very successfull and do not have problems assisting candidates to aquire a Taxi badge. Regards BB |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:01 am ] |
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BB whats the average rental there 
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| Author: | brightonbreezy [ Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:26 am ] |
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skippy41 wrote: BB whats the average rental there
The average night rental is £300 for six nights and £200 for six days, however on Mr Lavene's company the night rental is £345 and £250 on days 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:00 pm ] |
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I suspect the Brighton Baron is well miffed he isn't based in Adelaide. 
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html |
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| Author: | Jeckle [ Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:15 pm ] |
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Interesting read in fact. There is also a reference to 15 new plates being issued This year the State Government has issued another 15 plates that Mr Sievers expects will reap $5.5 million in revenue. So I presume the State Government see's a value of revenue generation in the issue of plates. ADELAIDE'S cabbies are earning less than half the hourly minimum wage while taxi plate owners have seen their value soar by nearly $200,000 in four years. As cabbies struggle to make a living, sometimes earning as little as $6 an hour, the barons of Adelaide's estimated $320 million taxi industry are revelling in their investment, SA Taxi Council figures show. Data lodged with a Parliamentary Select Committee into the taxi industry shows cabbies are making just $510 for an 84-hour working week as an estimated 6000 drivers, mainly international students, flood the industry looking for work. Meanwhile, the owners of Adelaide's 935 taxi plates have seen the average price of their investments soar from $162,900 in 2004 to a record $342,400 last year. Taxi Council president Wally Sievers said the plate price was being driven up by a strong supply of drivers and taxi operators willing to pay increasingly higher lease costs. He said plate owners were earning an average $440 in rent for their plates with one plate owner earning $530 a week. "If they (people) are willing to pay more to lease a plate, the value of the plate goes up," Mr Sievers said. "It's just the nature of supply and demand and market forces. "With interest rates being low that is a factor in why people are willing to buy taxi plates at a higher price as well." This year the State Government has issued another 15 plates that Mr Sievers expects will reap $5.5 million in revenue. In a submission to the Parliamentary Select Committee, Mr Sievers said any increase in the taxi fleet would only harm cabbies' earning capacity. "Its (the plate release's) impact on earnings is exacerbated by the current working environment, which has seen a considerable decrease in the amount of available work for individual drivers, brought about by a significant increase in the number of people in the industry," he wrote in the submission obtained by the Sunday Mail. He told the committee that on a Monday night there were 850 taxis vying for customers with drivers earning as little as $60 in a 12-hour shift. Mr Sievers said the council did not believe more taxis were needed as there was no evidence of "undue delays". The Transport Department would not reveal who owned Adelaide's taxi plates because of privacy laws but said the majority were owned by single operators with 67 plates owned by interstate investors. In Adelaide the biggest plate owners are former Suburban Taxis chairman Norm Cooper with 12, Suburban Taxis board member Greg Walford with 10, Jeff Shegog with eight and Amrik Singh with five. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:06 pm ] |
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Jeckle wrote: So I presume the State Government see's a value of revenue generation in the issue of plates.
I suspect they do, and that money will no-doubt go towards topping up the income, via Aussie social security, of the drivers earning diddly-squat. |
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| Author: | Doom [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:39 am ] |
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brightonbreezy wrote: skippy41 wrote: BB whats the average rental there The average night rental is £300 for six nights and £200 for six days, however on Mr Lavene's company the night rental is £345 and £250 on days Regards BB Hmmmm, I feel a Sussex agreement coming on here  that is steep, ****ing steep, you could have a 24/7 car here for £30pw less than your average, and bag rates are normally £180 N £120 D, and that's for all 7 shifts.
I see why you bleet so hard now, even given the level of trade and higher fares I would've assumed £250 N £170 D to have been about right, so it would seem to have me agreeing in your case, but not mine, now perhaps if I can see why you feel ripped, can you understand why my case is so strong, and roll on the test arriving here, should remove around 300 cars overnight, |
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