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Nigel wrote:

Full Story HERE

I doubt there is any trade anywhere that can boast a 100% clear CRB check list.

I also take a dim view over any journalist criticising another trade. [-X

Perhaps if authorities were held responible for licencing drivers with convictions they may think twice about issuing the same.

toots wrote:

Perhaps if authorities were held responsible for licencing drivers with convictions they may think twice about issuing the same.

I think they are.

So if a driver of previous bad character is given a licence for a taxi because the council think the driver is 'alright now' then the driver re-offends can those that suffer from this driver's offence ask the council for compensation?

Should the licensing officers need to be checked.? If we had licensing officers with a dodgy back ground they could be open for bribes etc. So are they CRB checked I wonder.

I suppose it depends on what criminal activity they have been convicted of, but, having said that a lot of criminal activity is spontaneous or opportunistic. It obviously goes without saying that child molesters and rapists should never be allowed to be taxi drivers. How about burglars they are criminals of opportunity and having taken somebody to the airport for their 2 weeks holiday may be to tempting an opportunity to resist. Then there's those that snap when provoked, some may say the customer had it coming because they provoked the driver but it still is not acceptable. IMO there are some crimes that should be unacceptable to any license dept and criminals can explain all they like to a licensing committee as to why they committed their crimes but at the end of the day if that situation arises again they are likely to react in the same way.

You don't believe that people grow up and change their behaviour at all then. Personally I think that is a sad situation to be in for someone who may have had a troubled upbringing, to know that there are some people who will never give them a chance.

toots wrote:

I am a forgiving person and I do believe that people should be given a 2nd chance but not at the expense of the general public and not without proof of rehabilitation

Author:	Nigel [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:24 am ]
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Full Story HERE

Author:	Sussex [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:10 am ]
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Nigel wrote: Full Story HERE I doubt there is any trade anywhere that can boast a 100% clear CRB check list. I also take a dim view over any journalist criticising another trade.

Author:	captain cab [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:06 am ]
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Sussex wrote: Nigel wrote: Full Story HERE I doubt there is any trade anywhere that can boast a 100% clear CRB check list. I also take a dim view over any journalist criticising another trade. Shame they didnt report the question the NTA posed......how many people with convictions work for the BBC? CC

Author:	toots [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:11 pm ]
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Perhaps if authorities were held responible for licencing drivers with convictions they may think twice about issuing the same.

Author:	Sussex [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:16 pm ]
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toots wrote: Perhaps if authorities were held responible for licencing drivers with convictions they may think twice about issuing the same. I think they are.

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Author:	toots [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:17 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: toots wrote: Perhaps if authorities were held responsible for licencing drivers with convictions they may think twice about issuing the same. I think they are. So if a driver of previous bad character is given a licence for a taxi because the council think the driver is 'alright now' then the driver re-offends can those that suffer from this driver's offence ask the council for compensation?

Author:	Sussex [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:31 pm ]
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toots wrote: So if a driver of previous bad character is given a licence for a taxi because the council think the driver is 'alright now' then the driver re-offends can those that suffer from this driver's offence ask the council for compensation? A council is empowered to license drivers who are 'fit and proper'. If they license people who are deemed not to be 'fit and proper' by a court, via a recent criminal conviction, then I would say that leads them open to be sued for negligence.

Author:	no tips [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:02 am ]
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Should the licensing officers need to be checked.? If we had licensing officers with a dodgy back ground they could be open for bribes etc. So are they CRB checked I wonder.

Author:	Sussex [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:05 am ]
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no tips wrote: Should the licensing officers need to be checked.? If we had licensing officers with a dodgy back ground they could be open for bribes etc. So are they CRB checked I wonder. I think many are as they have to authorise certain parts of the CRB form, and that requires a CRB check to do so.

Author:	Sussex [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:40 am ]
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A view from the criminal's perspective. Oh and the NTA. http://www.communitynewswire.press.net/ ... id=6431511

Author:	toots [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:25 am ]
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I suppose it depends on what criminal activity they have been convicted of, but, having said that a lot of criminal activity is spontaneous or opportunistic. It obviously goes without saying that child molesters and rapists should never be allowed to be taxi drivers. How about burglars they are criminals of opportunity and having taken somebody to the airport for their 2 weeks holiday may be to tempting an opportunity to resist. Then there's those that snap when provoked, some may say the customer had it coming because they provoked the driver but it still is not acceptable. IMO there are some crimes that should be unacceptable to any license dept and criminals can explain all they like to a licensing committee as to why they committed their crimes but at the end of the day if that situation arises again they are likely to react in the same way.

Author:	grandad [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:07 pm ]
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toots wrote: I suppose it depends on what criminal activity they have been convicted of, but, having said that a lot of criminal activity is spontaneous or opportunistic. It obviously goes without saying that child molesters and rapists should never be allowed to be taxi drivers. How about burglars they are criminals of opportunity and having taken somebody to the airport for their 2 weeks holiday may be to tempting an opportunity to resist. Then there's those that snap when provoked, some may say the customer had it coming because they provoked the driver but it still is not acceptable. IMO there are some crimes that should be unacceptable to any license dept and criminals can explain all they like to a licensing committee as to why they committed their crimes but at the end of the day if that situation arises again they are likely to react in the same way. You don't believe that people grow up and change their behaviour at all then. Personally I think that is a sad situation to be in for someone who may have had a troubled upbringing, to know that there are some people who will never give them a chance.

Author:	captain cab [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:16 pm ]
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grandad wrote: You don't believe that people grow up and change their behaviour at all then. Personally I think that is a sad situation to be in for someone who may have had a troubled upbringing, to know that there are some people who will never give them a chance. CC

Author:	toots [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:19 pm ]
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grandad wrote: toots wrote: I suppose it depends on what criminal activity they have been convicted of, but, having said that a lot of criminal activity is spontaneous or opportunistic. It obviously goes without saying that child molesters and rapists should never be allowed to be taxi drivers. How about burglars they are criminals of opportunity and having taken somebody to the airport for their 2 weeks holiday may be to tempting an opportunity to resist. Then there's those that snap when provoked, some may say the customer had it coming because they provoked the driver but it still is not acceptable. IMO there are some crimes that should be unacceptable to any license dept and criminals can explain all they like to a licensing committee as to why they committed their crimes but at the end of the day if that situation arises again they are likely to react in the same way. You don't believe that people grow up and change their behaviour at all then. Personally I think that is a sad situation to be in for someone who may have had a troubled upbringing, to know that there are some people who will never give them a chance. I never said they didn't or they couldn't grow up and change their behaviour and having a troubled upbringing is no excuse it's just for use as mitigating circumstances to lessen punishment. I understand that people can be led astray and can change their behaviour as they grow up. How long do you give somebody to do this before you licence them as taxi drivers/ph drivers? I work with drivers who have criminal records and who say they have 'changed their ways' and by all accounts they have. At the end of the day tho the public have a right to be safe and to be able to trust the licensed drivers. I'm not a liberal pussycat who can be rolled over and tickled when it suits. I am a forgiving person and I do believe that people should be given a 2nd chance but not at the expense of the general public and not without proof of rehabilitation

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Author:	grandad [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:27 pm ]
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toots wrote: I am a forgiving person and I do believe that people should be given a 2nd chance but not at the expense of the general public and not without proof of rehabilitation What proof can anyone provide though? Do they give out certificates for this like the NVQ?