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Are you sure it was not a torch :shock:

Does anyone know anything about this new equipment?????????

I was speaking to some of the cab owners last night, and they where on about taxi testing.
apparently the testing station is now using a laser device to check under the cabs and it is failing things that would have passed if the tester had done it himself
things like a very small amount of play in steering components and ball joints, it has failed several cabs but when the owners have taken the cabs to there garages the mechanics could find nothing wrong with the bits that have failed
Does anyone know anything about this new equipment?????????

Have you been in touch with your area's MOT Inspectorate office to ask about the use of these lasers, & to ask if they part of the equipment that MUST be used in MOT testing now?

Is the MOT testing station being over-zealous & unfair?

If you think so, ask the MOT testing station for a VT17 (appeal) form, immediately after they have failed your vehicle, before you move it off site & have the phone number for your local MOT Inspectorate office to hand & phone them immediately for an appeal re-test.

A cab driver friend of mine did this once when he thought that the testing garage were being unfair. His appeal was upheld two days later when the chap from the MOT Inspectorate came to re-test his cab with the original tester by his side & proceeded to give the embarrassed original tester a mini re-training course on testing vehicles in front of the cabbie.

skippy41 wrote:

Does anyone know anything about this new equipment?????????

Suggest you ask your council to have more testing stations made available.

And then go to one without the lasers.

Brummie Cabbie wrote:

Might be worth a try, my test is due on the 22nd, and I have already had the car given the once over by the garage that does my servicing and they could not find nothing (they service all the vehicles used at Knockhill race circuit)

The only new technology that I'm aware of at MOT stations are the remote shaker plates which frees up another man for another MOT. Shaker plates take alot of work from the mechanics. It will give you a direct pass or fail on steering issues etc etc. It's a good bit of kit.

If your garage "could not find nothing" they must have found something.

Author:	skippy41 [ Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:31 pm ]
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I was speaking to some of the cab owners last night, and they where on about taxi testing. apparently the testing station is now using a laser device to check under the cabs and it is failing things that would have passed if the tester had done it himself things like a very small amount of play in steering components and ball joints, it has failed several cabs but when the owners have taken the cabs to there garages the mechanics could find nothing wrong with the bits that have failed Does anyone know anything about this new equipment?????????

Author:	Stationtone [ Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:52 pm ]
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Are you sure it was not a torch

Author:	skippy41 [ Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:08 pm ]
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stationtone wrote: Are you sure it was not a torch The device is connected to a machine and the checker can get the reading from

Author:	grumpy [ Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:11 pm ]
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sounds like the set-up at our hackney station. it kept failing cars for brake imbalance. sometimes of up to 28%. road tests were ok, as were rolling roads at garages, but the machine still insisted the balance was off. numerous pad and disc replacements (on various cars) later, it transpires that unless the car was 100% aligned to the sensor the result was a misreading. no apologies, no refunds for money spent needlessly. BTW AFAIK, it's going to be compulsory for all MOT stations to have one in the next few years.

Author:	Sussex [ Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:38 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: Does anyone know anything about this new equipment????????? Suggest you ask your council to have more testing stations made available. And then go to one without the lasers.

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Author:	GBC [ Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:07 am ]
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Welcome to the high standards the London trade has enjoyed for many years at our annual inspection. Cheer up Skippy, you'll sleep better knowing the opposition has to adhere to your already high standards.

Author:	bloodnock [ Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:13 am ]
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skippy41 wrote: I was speaking to some of the cab owners last night, and they where on about taxi testing. apparently the testing station is now using a laser device to check under the cabs and it is failing things that would have passed if the tester had done it himself things like a very small amount of play in steering components and ball joints, it has failed several cabs but when the owners have taken the cabs to there garages the mechanics could find nothing wrong with the bits that have failed Does anyone know anything about this new equipment????????? Cant think what a laser would be able to see...any wearing parts such as ball joints, track rod ends and Steering racks would all have rubber boots concealing the worn sections...Things like wish bone or anti roll bar bushes would be clunking if they needed replaced anyway. Im sure the age old testers technique of wriving it about with a tyre lever to feel for play is still standard practice. So Im blowed if I can see where a Laser fits in...unless its to check wheel allignment..but even then..they couldnt fail something that was so minutely out that it would not show up on an individual part or they wouldnt know which part need replaced... Seems a tad tittle tattle-ish

Author:	Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:01 pm ]
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Have you been in touch with your area's MOT Inspectorate office to ask about the use of these lasers, & to ask if they part of the equipment that MUST be used in MOT testing now? Is the MOT testing station being over-zealous & unfair? If you think so, ask the MOT testing station for a VT17 (appeal) form, immediately after they have failed your vehicle, before you move it off site & have the phone number for your local MOT Inspectorate office to hand & phone them immediately for an appeal re-test. A cab driver friend of mine did this once when he thought that the testing garage were being unfair. His appeal was upheld two days later when the chap from the MOT Inspectorate came to re-test his cab with the original tester by his side & proceeded to give the embarrassed original tester a mini re-training course on testing vehicles in front of the cabbie.

Author:	skippy41 [ Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:10 pm ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: Have you been in touch with your area's MOT Inspectorate office to ask about the use of these lasers, & to ask if they part of the equipment that MUST be used in MOT testing now? Is the MOT testing station being over-zealous & unfair? If you think so, ask the MOT testing station for a VT17 (appeal) form, immediately after they have failed your vehicle, before you move it off site & have the phone number for your local MOT Inspectorate office to hand & phone them immediately for an appeal re-test. A cab driver friend of mine did this once when he thought that the testing garage were being unfair. His appeal was upheld two days later when the chap from the MOT Inspectorate came to re-test his cab with the original tester by his side & proceeded to give the embarrassed original tester a mini re-training course on testing vehicles in front of the cabbie. Might be worth a try, my test is due on the 22nd, and I have already had the car given the once over by the garage that does my servicing and they could not find nothing (they service all the vehicles used at Knockhill race circuit)

Author:	Nigel [ Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:12 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: skippy41 wrote: Does anyone know anything about this new equipment????????? Suggest you ask your council to have more testing stations made available. And then go to one without the lasers. That's our next step along with getting the prices dropped with regards to the badges and licensing issues.

Author:	mancityfan [ Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:16 pm ]
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Best practice guidlines 2010 Number Of Testing Stations. There is sometimes criticism that local authorities provide only one testing centre for their area (which may be geographically extensive). So it is good practice for local authorities to consider having more than one testing station. There could be an advantage in contracting out the testing work, and to different garages. In that way the licensing authority can benefit from competition in costs. (The Vehicle Operators and Standards Agency – VOSA – may be able to assist where there are local difficulties in provision of testing stations.)

Author:	Nigel [ Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:38 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: I was speaking to some of the cab owners last night, and they where on about taxi testing. apparently the testing station is now using a laser device to check under the cabs and it is failing things that would have passed if the tester had done it himself things like a very small amount of play in steering components and ball joints, it has failed several cabs but when the owners have taken the cabs to there garages the mechanics could find nothing wrong with the bits that have failed Does anyone know anything about this new equipment????????? The only new technology that I'm aware of at MOT stations are the remote shaker plates which frees up another man for another MOT. Shaker plates take alot of work from the mechanics. It will give you a direct pass or fail on steering issues etc etc. It's a good bit of kit. Where it used to take 2 men to do an MOT it only takes one in some garages that have the new VOSA testing equipment

Author:	jimbo [ Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:42 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: Brummie Cabbie wrote: Have you been in touch with your area's MOT Inspectorate office to ask about the use of these lasers, & to ask if they part of the equipment that MUST be used in MOT testing now? Is the MOT testing station being over-zealous & unfair? If you think so, ask the MOT testing station for a VT17 (appeal) form, immediately after they have failed your vehicle, before you move it off site & have the phone number for your local MOT Inspectorate office to hand & phone them immediately for an appeal re-test. A cab driver friend of mine did this once when he thought that the testing garage were being unfair. His appeal was upheld two days later when the chap from the MOT Inspectorate came to re-test his cab with the original tester by his side & proceeded to give the embarrassed original tester a mini re-training course on testing vehicles in front of the cabbie. Might be worth a try, my test is due on the 22nd, and I have already had the car given the once over by the garage that does my servicing and they could not find nothing (they service all the vehicles used at Knockhill race circuit) If your garage "could not find nothing" they must have found something.

Author:	Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:41 pm ]
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Nigel wrote: The only new technology that I'm aware of at MOT stations are the remote shaker plates which frees up another man for another MOT. Shaker plates take alot of work from the mechanics. It will give you a direct pass or fail on steering issues etc etc. It's a good bit of kit. Shaker??? . . . aka The United Society of Believers in Christ’s Second Appearing!! I never knew that the annual cab testing ritual was now a religious event!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakers

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