A few years back I got a fixed penalty fine for a breach of the peace.... will this affect our booking office licence application
hmmm....
cheers
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| Author: | DMcnelly [ Mon May 10, 2010 5:24 pm ] |
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A few years back I got a fixed penalty fine for a breach of the peace.... will this affect our booking office licence application hmmm....
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon May 10, 2010 6:08 pm ] |
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dmcnelly wrote: A few years back I got a fixed penalty fine for a breach of the peace.... will this affect our booking office licence application
hmmm....cheers More than likely wasn't recorded, so no. |
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| Author: | DMcnelly [ Mon May 10, 2010 6:26 pm ] |
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Sussex wrote: dmcnelly wrote: A few years back I got a fixed penalty fine for a breach of the peace.... will this affect our booking office licence application hmmm....cheers More than likely wasn't recorded, so no. I was charged though ?.... |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon May 10, 2010 6:39 pm ] |
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dmcnelly wrote: I was charged though ?....
Usually fixed penalty tickets are not recorded on your criminal history, which is why most, if not all, don't appear on your CRB checks, and on your printout if you ever come before a court. The fact that you were charged shouldn't really matter, but I'm not that much up on Scottish law. The fact that you (I'm guessing) have a drivers and vehicle license should mean that your past history shouldn't effect you gaining an ops license. Quite clearly folks are at a vastly higher risk if you are driving them from a to b than answering the phone to them. |
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| Author: | DMcnelly [ Mon May 10, 2010 6:41 pm ] |
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Sussex wrote: dmcnelly wrote: I was charged though ?.... Usually fixed penalty tickets are not recorded on your criminal history, which is why most, if not all, don't appear on your CRB checks, and on your printout if you ever come before a court. The fact that you were charged shouldn't really matter, but I'm not that much up on Scottish law. The fact that you (I'm guessing) have a drivers and vehicle license should mean that your past history shouldn't effect you gaining an ops license. Quite clearly folks are at a vastly higher risk if you are driving them from a to b than answering the phone to them. I dont have a driver's badge  ! Well I should find out at the end of the 21 day notice period 
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| Author: | Nigel [ Mon May 10, 2010 7:01 pm ] |
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If it's an Enhanced CRB it will show up, even interviews as witnesses are recorded on the Enhanced CRB. |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Mon May 10, 2010 9:00 pm ] |
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| Author: | MR T [ Tue May 11, 2010 12:28 am ] |
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There are people here who think they know everything.... unfortunately they don't..... expect the unexpected |
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| Author: | Jasbar [ Tue May 11, 2010 7:14 pm ] |
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MR T wrote: There are people here who think they know everything.... unfortunately they don't..... expect the unexpected
I agree. What we have to consider here is why base licensing was brought in. It was a political move so that criminal elements could be excluded. It is designed to dig out people the establishment doesn't like, but they don't have enough evidence to take the matter before the Justiciary. However, it is a thick sword. It can easily be used to breach our Human Rights and, because it is licensing and not criminal Law, is virtually unchallengeable by all except those who have wads of cash to take the fight to the courts, a prohibitively expensive process for most of us. So, the answer probably is that the fixed penalty will not prevent you getting a base licence, unless and until the cops and the council decide that your face doesn't fit whereupon the FP will be used as an excuse to do you down. This truly is fascism boys. And the trade did nothing to argue against it, or at least ensure that safeguards were built in. The old maxim applies here. We're divided. They rule. 
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| Author: | Skull [ Thu May 13, 2010 12:13 am ] |
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Jasbar wrote: MR T wrote: There are people here who think they know everything.... unfortunately they don't..... expect the unexpected I agree. What we have to consider here is why base licensing was brought in. It was a political move so that criminal elements could be excluded. It is designed to dig out people the establishment doesn't like, but they don't have enough evidence to take the matter before the Justiciary. However, it is a thick sword. It can easily be used to breach our Human Rights and, because it is licensing and not criminal Law, is virtually unchallengeable by all except those who have wads of cash to take the fight to the courts, a prohibitively expensive process for most of us. So, the answer probably is that the fixed penalty will not prevent you getting a base licence, unless and until the cops and the council decide that your face doesn't fit whereupon the FP will be used as an excuse to do you down. This truly is fascism boys. And the trade did nothing to argue against it, or at least ensure that safeguards were built in. The old maxim applies here. We're divided. They rule. Too much education for one night Jim, you don't really expect these feckwits to understand, do you? |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Thu May 13, 2010 12:47 am ] |
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Quote: It is designed to dig out people the establishment doesn't like More commonly known as criminals Quote: but they don't have enough evidence to take the matter before the Justiciary.
Errm you mean th balance of probablities versus beyond reasonable doubt. ffs stick to the kindergarden wee mon. CC |
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| Author: | Skull [ Thu May 13, 2010 2:40 am ] |
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captain cab wrote: Quote: It is designed to dig out people the establishment doesn't like More commonly known as criminals Quote: but they don't have enough evidence to take the matter before the Justiciary. Errm you mean th balance of probablities versus beyond reasonable doubt. ffs stick to the kindergarden wee mon. CC I see there's no point in having a threshold of truth and justice when you're around CC. Why don't we just make it up as we go along? CC,Judge, Jury and executioner, why bother with evidence?
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| Author: | Jasbar [ Thu May 13, 2010 10:54 am ] |
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captain cab wrote: Quote: It is designed to dig out people the establishment doesn't like More commonly known as criminals Quote: but they don't have enough evidence to take the matter before the Justiciary. Errm you mean th balance of probablities versus beyond reasonable doubt. ffs stick to the kindergarden wee mon. CC Question is who would possibly elect a feckwit like you to any office CC. If you had another brain cell you still wouldn't have two to rub together. Criminals are determined by Courts, not cops or politicians, end of. But you would happily allow criminality to be attached without due process. On that basis, you'll be quite contented when your led to the wall, blindfolded and administered the 9mm injection to the place where a normal person has a brain. Perhaps as your last wish you could ask for incontinence pants. It'll hide the embarrassing pee flowing from your orifice as you remember that it was your own stupidity that brought you to the situation.
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| Author: | toots [ Thu May 13, 2010 2:30 pm ] |
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Quote: What we have to consider here is why base licensing was brought in. I don't know much about the Scottish system, but, is base licensing a new thing? Is there any reason why a base shouldn't have a licence when all it's drivers require one? Quote: It was a political move so that criminal elements could be excluded. It is designed to dig out people the establishment doesn't like, but they don't have enough evidence to take the matter before the Justiciary Most moves to protect the public or exclude criminals are politically motivated. I mean heaven forbid they should use the base for money laundering. Perhaps those that are already proven to be criminals should not be considered as suitable people to hold a licence that in effect has the livelihood of many licence holders under their control. Quote: It can easily be used to breach our Human Rights What human rights do you think it will breach? Quote: This truly is fascism boys
Why do you think it's fascism? Do you believe there should be no controls at all within the taxi trade? |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Thu May 13, 2010 4:36 pm ] |
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Skull wrote: I see there's no point in having a threshold of truth and justice when you're around CC. Why don't we just make it up as we go along? CC,Judge, Jury and executioner, why bother with evidence? Thats the way licenses are assessed. I wont answer Jaspar because its early in the morning and he's still got a migrane with his viagra (he cant get one anymore you know). Of course you guys could take your point to that joke of a Parliament of yours, which of course the English paid for. CC |
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