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Author:  Sussex [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:14 am ]
Post subject:  Southampton licensing councillors having a laugh!
Southampton licensing chiefs raise fee for city taxi drivers

A TEN per cent hike in taxi fares has been thrown out by councillors who promptly raised licence fees by a similar amount. Taxi chiefs have accused Southampton city licensing chiefs of double standards for voting through the amount drivers pay to licence their cabs.

But they could not agree among themselves on a rise in fare charges, so councillors threw out any plans for a raise until rival trade bodies could decide on a figure.

The Southampton Trade Association (STA) warned the “massive” rises proposed by Southampton Hackney Association (SHA) were too high to justify to the public and feared they would been seen as “greedy”. Each cited opposing results from surveys of drivers.

SHA chairman Ian Hall said the rises were needed to cover higher petrol and insurance costs, increased permit charges, a new council requirement for two MoTs a year, and compulsory £710 spy cameras in cabs, which have left many drivers struggling.

Licensing panel chairman Councillor Brian Parnell said the fare rises were refused because of “clear objections within the trade”. And he added: “Although we’ve looked at the economic reasons for and against, at this stage there is no evidence to warrant an increase.”

Trade chiefs last night vowed to sit around the table with union bosses and agree more modest rises to resubmit to the council. Mr Hall, who represents 126 hail and ride Hackney Carriage drivers, said: “I’m disappointed that the fare increases have been refused and yet the council can see fit to raise licence fees by ten per cent.”

Perry McMillan, chairman of the Southampton cab section of the Unite union, said: “It’s doubled standards but from today we will ensure that the trade will be getting together and will thrash out a deal that is favourable to all.”

Clive Johnson, chairman of the 416 member STA, branded the service provided by some council licensing officers as “atrocious” and said they had done nothing to justify an increase in the vehicle licence fees from £150 to £165. He said: “We are pleased that we’ve got this fare proposal stopped and that common sense prevailed. Sadly it didn’t with the licence fees.”

Over the past decade fares in Southampton have dropped from among the most expensive in the country to 116th of 380 authorities, according to a trade survey.
Author:  Sussex [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Southampton licensing councillors having a laugh!
Sussex wrote:
Perry McMillan, chairman of the Southampton cab section of the Unite union, said: “It’s doubled standards but from today we will ensure that the trade will be getting together and will thrash out a deal that is favourable to all.”

So the day after councillors freeze cab fares yet increase license fees by 10%, the trade are going to unite.

Did the dumbos not consider doing that last week? ](*,)
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Southampton licensing councillors having a laugh!
Sussex wrote:
But they could not agree among themselves on a rise in fare charges, so councillors threw out any plans for a raise until rival trade bodies could decide on a figure.

I have always found that councillors will refuse a fare increase if the trade is not united in what they are asking for.

Otherwise it smacks of favouritism by councillors towards one representative body & they don't like being put into that kind of position.

On many occasions in years gone by in Brum when the trade has not been able to agree on the level of fare increase to go for, I have asked a cab driver colleague to put in an application (as a stalking horse) for a Variation in The Hackney Carriage Table of Fares, which is so high that it is bound to be thrown out by councillors.

The rest of the trade representative bodies are then galvanised into action & eventual agreement, purely because they fear that should the initial 'stalking horse' application for a huge fare rise be unexpectedly passed by the Licensing Committee, it would be detrimental to trade by its severity.

Then, once the trade submit a unified fare increase application, my colleague either withdraws his 'stalking horse' application in writing before the Licensing Committee meeting to decide the matter, or on one occasion in the past when agreement by trade representative bodies was 'luke-warm', he actually came to the meeting & withdrew his 'stalking horse' application during the meeting in favour of the unified trade application & voiced his support for the unified trade representative bodies joint application.

And that's the way we 'force' (for want of a better word) a fare application to be a unified one in Brum.
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