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| Author: | Stationtone [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Bristol drivers take council to court over blue paint ruling |
Bristol taxi drivers take city council to court over blue paint ruling A blue Bristol taxi at Temple Meads Railway StationTAXI drivers are taking Bristol City Council to court for forcing them to paint their cabs blue. The authority told the city's 800 hackney carriage drivers they had to spray their cabs the colour of the famous "Bristol Blue" glass in early 2008. But none of the major car makers produces the shade as a standard colour, which means that vehicles must be resprayed, even when they are bought new. The cabbies say resprays cost between £1,500 and £4,000, depending on the size and type of vehicle. Only around 80 cabs have been resprayed since the policy was introduced two-and-a-half years ago, which leaves more than 700 to be done before the May 2011 deadline. So for the second time in two years, drivers are taking the city council to court in the hope of getting the colour condition revoked. The case is due to be heard at Bristol Magistrates' Court next Tuesday after a previous High Court appeal against the ruling failed. They are also fighting another council decision to stop advertising covering the whole of a cab. Instead, the adverts can only cover the bottom half of the vehicles. Both conditions take effect from May 1 next year. The council has said if cabbies do not comply, their licence will not be renewed. Shafiq Ahmed, chairman of the National Taxi Association for Bristol and district, said: "We are going to court as a last resort. "We don't really want the hassle and costs of legal action but we feel we have no alternative." The cabbies are taking the council to court on the grounds that they were not properly consulted about the conditions and they are unreasonable because of their financial impact. Four cabbies will be used in what the taxi trade hope will be seen as a test case by the council, although it looks as though each hackney driver will individually have to appeal if they lose their case. Mr Ahmed said cabbies were being unfairly penalised because the new colour was being introduced from a specific date rather than when cabbies replaced their vehicles. "If the council wants our taxis to be blue, then it should fund the cost itself." He said cabbies would much rather see the money spent on improving safety such as installed glass screens and CCTV cameras in cabs. The cost of a new London-style cab is about £32,000, which does not take into account the interest charges or the cost of a respray. Mr Ahmed said this was a huge overhead for cabbies to pay back during the lifespan of their vehicle which must be replaced after ten years. He said there was no consultation with the trade over respraying vehicles blue, which was considered as a high risk colour because it was not so easily seen at night. A council spokeswoman said the decision to introduce blue taxis was taken with the support of the police and after talks with representatives from the trade. She said it was primarily a safety measure to ensure that people knew they were hailing genuine licensed taxis. Hackney carriages can be flagged down in the street while private hire cars must be pre-booked. The spokeswoman said: "We have allowed close shades to Bristol blue when considering vehicles for licensing. Our research shows the cost is less than quoted here. We do allow a plastic skin of the colour to be applied which is also cheaper. We have allowed some slightly different shades." The council says they won't accept these cases as a precedent because the trade attempted to overturn the new policies in the High Court but failed. The spokeswoman said: "The key message we want the public to know is that from May 1, all legitimate Hackney carriages will be blue." The council says that as a result of consultation, the cabbies were given three years to comply instead of two as suggested by council officers. http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Bri ... ticle.html |
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| Author: | Stationtone [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:26 am ] |
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I would take them to court to that colours hideous
Is it me or are taxi drivers all over getting shafted
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| Author: | Nigel [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:51 am ] |
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stationtone wrote: I would take them to court to that colours hideous
Is it me or are taxi drivers all over getting shafted ![]() 1. Yes 2. We get shafted everytime. |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:37 am ] |
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You would have thought that having to spend that amount of extra money on vehicle cosmetics only to appease a local authority would be against some kind of EU Fair trading law or unfair competition rules..its a form of discrimination being imposed by one LA which other operators in other areas would not have to endure....most unfair. |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:20 am ] |
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Refer them to the York ruling where the judge said as long as it had a top sign saying taxi it does not matter what colour thy are I think there are a few more rulings on this against other councils |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bristol drivers take council to court over blue paint ru |
stationtone wrote: But none of the major car makers produces the shade as a standard colour, which means that vehicles must be resprayed, even when they are bought new.
That is complete f***ing nonsense really.
At least specify a colour that some bugger makes.
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| Author: | Stationtone [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:24 pm ] |
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Sussex that would be to simple for these numpty councilors.Why not just have a big council logo on the bonnet or something similar. |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:53 pm ] |
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stationtone wrote: Is it me or are taxi drivers all over getting shafted ![]() We always get shafted
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| Author: | jimbo [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:33 pm ] |
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skippy41 wrote: Refer them to the York ruling where the judge said as long as it had a top sign saying taxi it does not matter what colour thy are
I think there are a few more rulings on this against other councils Get your barristers wig on and get on down to Bristol, Skippy. |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:15 pm ] |
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jimbo wrote: skippy41 wrote: Refer them to the York ruling where the judge said as long as it had a top sign saying taxi it does not matter what colour thy are I think there are a few more rulings on this against other councils Get your barristers wig on and get on down to Bristol, Skippy. That would make it a Kangaroo Court...not the ideal answer to the problem
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| Author: | captain cab [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:37 pm ] |
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Bristol must have one of the worst LA's in the country, they prosecute drivers for over ranking and want a colour that no manufacturer makes as standard on a type of vehicle that is easily recognisable whichever colour it is.
CC |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:39 pm ] |
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captain cab wrote: Bristol must have one of the worst LA's in the country, they prosecute drivers for over ranking and want a colour that no manufacturer makes as standard on a type of vehicle that is easily recognisable whichever colour it is.
CC Ive only been to Bristol but the once...and to be honest the best thing about the place was the Road out....
Others may Disagree...
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:42 pm ] |
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captain cab wrote: Bristol must have one of the worst LA's in the country,
And, it would seem, the most ineffective trade leadership.
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| Author: | captain cab [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:50 pm ] |
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Sussex wrote: captain cab wrote: Bristol must have one of the worst LA's in the country, And, it would seem, the most ineffective trade leadership. ![]() T&G for years that place, I understand the NTA is a unifying thing bringing them all under one umbrella. Of course the Umbrella Corporation was responsible for the T Virus in Raccoon City, and we all know how that ended. CC |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:04 pm ] |
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captain cab wrote: Sussex wrote: captain cab wrote: Bristol must have one of the worst LA's in the country, And, it would seem, the most ineffective trade leadership. ![]() T&G for years that place, I understand the NTA is a unifying thing bringing them all under one umbrella. Of course the Umbrella Corporation was responsible for the T Virus in Raccoon City, and we all know how that ended. CC Sadly not..enlighten me please??? |
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