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Firstly it is not my letter so please show some respect for me posting what is in the press.If people did not take the time to post news we would not know what is going on around the country.
Secondly you are are dick and do not have a dan do.

Thirdly i happen to agree with what old cabby has to say and hope Mr wallace takes on board his comments .

I have said in the past that i would not respond to your dribble and not to read your posts so :-$

fishing trip, no biting :wink:

Fact is that if you now restrict licences in Dundee, and they accrue a value, then you're problems are going to persist for ever. You will never be able to shake extra licences out of the system. Only a free market can achieve this as market forces force people to retire, to leave the market.

Allowing easy reentry when times are better will encourage people to leave temporarily Which would help those who stay. Can't you see this simple premise?

You shoould be asking that private hire are subject to those same quality controls

You should be expanding your use of your vehicle into other commercial areas not necessarily passenger carrying.

There's lots you can do. But you just can't think outside the box. All you can see is that somehow restriction will save the day. But it's the one thing that you know will NOT deliver you extra fares.

Now go read the Jimmy Reid article. get wise. Then get even.

Another letter in the telegraph
Urgent action needed

Letter writer Old Cabbie is clearly a wise cabbie and should consider standing for election at the next local elections to represent the views of the taxi trade.
The authorities should take on board what he or she has to say about the ongoing problems within the Dundee taxi trade.

Old Cabbie proposed sensible measures for measuring the number of taxis and the possibility of placing a cap on the number of vehicles on the road in Dundee.

In a recent letter in the Tele, Councillor Wallace said that he and the taxi trade were united in the way to take the taxi trade forward.

If Councillor Wallace is true to his word he should take on board what the cabbie has to say.

Other towns and cities have stopped issuing licences. One of those cites was Cardiff and in their local Press it was said to be a vote for common sense when councillors voted to stop issuing any more taxi licences.

Action needs to be taken as a matter of urgency for the sake of those trying to earn a crust in the taxi trade in Dundee. — Taxi Driver.

http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/outpu ... tters.shtm

both these letters highlight a common problem in the hack/ph world,cabbies who dont have a clue what they are talking about,the only info they get is from there mate on the rank,they dont join associations they dont attend meetings,(all the taxis will be off that night ill make a fortune)they then rely on writing a letter which will only be read by the taxi trade to the tele,they then expect this to solve the problem,i would like a survey done to see how many of the badge holders know the real facts about what has been happening in our trade,without jesting im thinking in dundee 1%

Author:	Stationtone [ Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:55 am ]
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Taxi capping plan I respond to the letter “ Authority listening” sent by Baillie Wallace licensing convener. I am led to believe capping the number of taxi licences has been put forward by the trade. The trade have been requesting capping to be discussed for years and, until now, the committee wouldn’t entertain this matter, but now it seems they are at least prepared to debate. If the licensing committee is really listening, as stated by Councillor Wallace, then there can only be one outcome to the decision relating to the trades request: — The committee should instruct an independent body to collate a survey to determine the required number of licences to service the city of Dundee. — Defer all future licence applications from this day forth until the survey has been presented to the committee. — If the survey takes longer than six months to collate then like Edinburgh City Council did in 2004 they should ask for an extension of a further six months. — The committee should then instruct a suitable person to monitor the ranks every month and if new businesses come to Dundee or it appears the public service is deteriorating then the committee could instruct another miniature survey to determine if more or less licences need to be granted. This would leave the granting of licences to an impartial body. The trade, public or the licensing committee would not be put in the position of deciding the number required for the city and everyone would have to accept the survey’s figure. — Old Cabby. http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/outpu ... tters.shtm

Author:	Jasbar [ Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:27 pm ]
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You really are an idiot stationtone. I vouch this aint gonna happen. Human Rights will blow this out of the water. And I reckon your council already knows this. You really are wasting your time. If your input had been about quality controls then it may have had some effect. If it had been about bring those same quality controls to sectors of the hire car market then it may have had some real effect. You're wasting your time. In Edinburgh we're waiting for the results of the court cases in November. Following that, if the council hasn't de-restricted then we WILL be making application in a single individual's name, based solely on Human Rights. This will attract civil legal aid to fight the case, all the way to the European Court of Justice if required. As I say Stationtone, you're wasting your time. Watch this space. We're gonna ensure that there will never be restrictions on taxi licences ever again.

Author:	Stationtone [ Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:54 pm ]
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Firstly it is not my letter so please show some respect for me posting what is in the press.If people did not take the time to post news we would not know what is going on around the country. Secondly you are are dick and do not have a dan do. Thirdly i happen to agree with what old cabby has to say and hope Mr wallace takes on board his comments .

Author:	Jasbar [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:57 am ]
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stationtone wrote: Firstly it is not my letter so please show some respect for me posting what is in the press.If people did not take the time to post news we would not know what is going on around the country. Secondly you are are dick and do not have a dan do. Thirdly i happen to agree with what old cabby has to say and hope Mr wallace takes on board his comments . Then you should have made it clear it was not you responding. In the world of anonymous cowards old cabby could well be you. But the fact you agree with the letter then my post holds true, so what's your beef. As for me being a dick - what's a dan do? -, for what? For being able to see the truth? That restricting licences is stupid? That it is selfish? That it doesn't preserve the rights of the individual for free trade? That it mitigates the safety of the public? Fact is that if you now restrict licences in Dundee, and they accrue a value, then you're problems are going to persist for ever. You will never be able to shake extra licences out of the system. Only a free market can achieve this as market forces force people to retire, to leave the market. Allowing easy reentry when times are better will encourage people to leave temporarily Which would help those who stay. Can't you see this simple premise? You're just cementing your own hardship. You should be asking for quality controls to be beefed up. You shoould be asking that private hire are subject to those same quality controls. You should be controling tariffs, even reducing them to attract business. You should be expanding your use of your vehicle into other commercial areas not necessarily passenger carrying. There's lots you can do. But you just can't think outside the box. All you can see is that somehow restriction will save the day. But it's the one thing that you know will NOT deliver you extra fares. Now go read the Jimmy Reid article. get wise. Then get even.

Author:	Stationtone [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:23 pm ]
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I have said in the past that i would not respond to your dribble and not to read your posts so

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Author:	Jasbar [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:29 pm ]
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stationtone wrote: I have said in the past that i would not respond to your dribble and not to read your posts so That's because you do not have the intellectual wit to do so. You've lost the argument and can't respond, so you act like a baby throwing the toys out of the pram. That's why the trade is fecked. Faced with reason and logic you just bury your head deeper in the sand. That's why you're anonymous. You're either ashamed or just another vested interest trying to screw cabbies.

Author:	Stationtone [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:38 pm ]
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Author:	grumpy [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:29 pm ]
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fishing trip, no biting

Author:	toots [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:47 pm ]
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Quote: fishing trip, no biting Pmsl........ Quote: Fact is that if you now restrict licences in Dundee, and they accrue a value, then you're problems are going to persist for ever. You will never be able to shake extra licences out of the system. Only a free market can achieve this as market forces force people to retire, to leave the market. Do you have evidence of this? Quote: Allowing easy reentry when times are better will encourage people to leave temporarily Which would help those who stay. Can't you see this simple premise? Easier access into and out of the taxi market just makes it open to money grabbing opportunists applying. It doesn't encourage the calibre of driver that a LA would like, it doesn't encourage proper investment into the trade, but, it will encourage those that want to make a quick buck or two as and when it suits and likely causing instability within the trade. Quote: You shoould be asking that private hire are subject to those same quality controls What do you think that will achieve? Quote: You should be expanding your use of your vehicle into other commercial areas not necessarily passenger carrying. Don't forget to make sure you have the correct insurance before you do tho Quote: There's lots you can do. But you just can't think outside the box. All you can see is that somehow restriction will save the day. But it's the one thing that you know will NOT deliver you extra fares. That implies that de-restriction could deliver extra fares Quote: Now go read the Jimmy Reid article. get wise. Then get even. Spoken like a true communist, but, we know you're not really cos if you were you wouldn't have been selling plates. Having said that even Jimmy Reid changed his mind The shame of the last bit of your comment isn't really within the spirit of Jimmy Reid tho is it, it's the little spiteful snipes that show your true colours

Author:	Stationtone [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:58 pm ]
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Another letter in the telegraph Urgent action needed Letter writer Old Cabbie is clearly a wise cabbie and should consider standing for election at the next local elections to represent the views of the taxi trade. The authorities should take on board what he or she has to say about the ongoing problems within the Dundee taxi trade. Old Cabbie proposed sensible measures for measuring the number of taxis and the possibility of placing a cap on the number of vehicles on the road in Dundee. In a recent letter in the Tele, Councillor Wallace said that he and the taxi trade were united in the way to take the taxi trade forward. If Councillor Wallace is true to his word he should take on board what the cabbie has to say. Other towns and cities have stopped issuing licences. One of those cites was Cardiff and in their local Press it was said to be a vote for common sense when councillors voted to stop issuing any more taxi licences. Action needs to be taken as a matter of urgency for the sake of those trying to earn a crust in the taxi trade in Dundee. — Taxi Driver. http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/outpu ... tters.shtm

Author:	Jasbar [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:18 pm ]
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stationtone wrote: Another letter in the telegraph Urgent action needed Letter writer Old Cabbie is clearly a wise cabbie and should consider standing for election at the next local elections to represent the views of the taxi trade. The authorities should take on board what he or she has to say about the ongoing problems within the Dundee taxi trade. Old Cabbie proposed sensible measures for measuring the number of taxis and the possibility of placing a cap on the number of vehicles on the road in Dundee. In a recent letter in the Tele, Councillor Wallace said that he and the taxi trade were united in the way to take the taxi trade forward. If Councillor Wallace is true to his word he should take on board what the cabbie has to say. Other towns and cities have stopped issuing licences. One of those cites was Cardiff and in their local Press it was said to be a vote for common sense when councillors voted to stop issuing any more taxi licences. Action needs to be taken as a matter of urgency for the sake of those trying to earn a crust in the taxi trade in Dundee. — Taxi Driver. http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/outpu ... tters.shtm Aye they're not bright in Dundee are they? Anyone from the taxi trade elected as a councillor would have to declare a vested interest and would not be allowed to vote on taxi trade matters. But then you knew this didn't you? As for a united approach by council and trade, sure they can re-restrict. The legislation as it appears allows this, once specific information comes to hand. But section 10 (3) has never been tested by Human Rights discrimination legislation. It will be shortly. So, you guys are going to look pretty foolish re-restricting knowin g this is coming. Personally I hope you do go down this wild goose chase. More people shelling out big time for plates they don't own, then the crash. More financial mess. And a council creating this mess? Well this time they may just be financially responsible to clear it up. Imagine councils up and down the country having to use hard pressed taypayer's money to reimburse cabbies who've shelled out 50 grand because councils led them up the swannee. Go on Dundee. Get to the task. A lot of political careers are gonna head deservedly into oblivion Hard to believe this is the 21st century, eh?

Author:	dundee wav [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:50 pm ]
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both these letters highlight a common problem in the hack/ph world,cabbies who dont have a clue what they are talking about,the only info they get is from there mate on the rank,they dont join associations they dont attend meetings,(all the taxis will be off that night ill make a fortune)they then rely on writing a letter which will only be read by the taxi trade to the tele,they then expect this to solve the problem,i would like a survey done to see how many of the badge holders know the real facts about what has been happening in our trade,without jesting im thinking in dundee 1%

Author:	Jasbar [ Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:08 am ]
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dundee wav wrote: both these letters highlight a common problem in the hack/ph world,cabbies who dont have a clue what they are talking about,the only info they get is from there mate on the rank,they dont join associations they dont attend meetings,(all the taxis will be off that night ill make a fortune)they then rely on writing a letter which will only be read by the taxi trade to the tele,they then expect this to solve the problem,i would like a survey done to see how many of the badge holders know the real facts about what has been happening in our trade,without jesting im thinking in dundee 1% Aye, you're ever the eternal optimist DW. 1%? Widly optimistic. BTW Which "Telegraph" did the letters appear in?

Author:	dundee wav [ Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:42 am ]
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the letters apeared in the dundee tele jasbar,you can acess them online,i used to get the tele delivered to my door 5x a week,that all stopped once it was pointed out how much influence the marrs/youngy has here,whats the point of a newspaper that doesn,t report the real news?

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