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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:31 am 
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Kirklees taxi drivers ready to strike over new penalty points system

CABBIES could strike after councillors brought in a new penalty points system to catch bad taxi drivers.

Kirklees Council’s Licensing and Safety Committee backed the proposal yesterday.

But a taxi drivers’ representative predicted strike action if the system is introduced.

Council officers have drawn-up the proposal, which punishes cabbies for dozens of offences.

Any driver who racks up 12 points in a year could be stripped of their licence by Kirklees.

Some of the offences are taken from the general penalty points system used on all motorists – including driving without insurance and using a mobile phone at the wheel.

However, many of the offences in the Kirklees system are unique to cabbies – including overcharging for a journey, failing to wear a driver’s badge and jumping the queue at a taxi rank.

Kirklees Hackney Carriage Association spokesman Amjad Nadeem warned yesterday his members could strike over the issue.

“We’re going to ask our members what steps they want to take,” he said.

“Chances are we will have a protest or strike action over this.”

Mr Nadeem added it was wrong for cabbies to have to face two penalty systems – one enforced by law and the other by Kirklees.

He said: “Our members feel this system is unfair because there’s already a system in place where penalty points go on a normal driving licence.”

Mr Nadeem added that the council had promised to consult his group before deciding whether to go ahead.

He said: “We had a meeting with councillors and officers in January. They were supposed to have a further consultation with us, which they did not do.”

The Licensing and Safety Committee backed the system at Huddersfield Town Hall yesterday.

It will come into force on January 1, 2012.

Any driver who racks up 12 penalty points in a year will go in front of the council’s Licensing Panel with a recommendation that their licence is suspended for 28 days.

A cabbie who collects another 12 points will be suspended for 56 days.

And any driver who racks up 12 points for a third time will have their licence revoked.

Several committee members spoke in favour of the penalty points system.

Kirkburton Conservative Clr Adrian Murphy said: “I think we should go ahead with this and move our standards up.”

Clr Christine Iredale told the meeting that cabbies who commit motoring offences deserved extra punishment.


The Golcar Lib Dem said: “If a normal driver uses their mobile at the wheel they get three penalty points and a £60 fine.

“If a taxi driver uses his mobile phone while taking paying passengers, I believe that’s a more serious offence.”

Liversedge and Gomersal Conservative Clr Derrick Yates added: “The good drivers aren’t affected by this. It’s the one’s who persistently ignore the rules.”

Clr Masood Ahmed was the only member of the 12-strong committee to speak against the penalty points system.

The Dewsbury South Labour man does not believe the council has enough workers to enforce the new rules.

“We’re already struggling with the staffing we’ve got,” he said.

Councillors also criticised a 243-name petition opposing the new system, which was submitted by Kirklees Hackney Carriage Association

Committee members claimed several names had been written in by a single person.

“You can clearly see that one man has done the work on each page,” said Clr Murphy.

“It’s ridiculous, they must think we’re dodos.”

Heckmondwike Labour man Clr Steve Hall agreed.

“This petition is an absolute joke,” he said.

“How are we supposed to take this seriously? It should be thrown in the bin.”

But Mr Nadeem told the Examiner: “The paperwork was given to each base who took responsibility for getting every driver to sign it.

“There’s a badge number next to each name, so every driver can be contacted to see if the information on the petition is correct.”

Some of the offences in the new penalty points system for taxi drivers. Totting 12 points could equal a ban

Unreasonably prolonging a journey or overcharging 4 points

Failure to have a working fire extinguisher 3 pts

Touting or illegally plying for hire: 9 pts

Failure to wear driver’s badge: 4 pts

Eating food while driving: 3 pts

Carrying an offensive weapon in a vehicle: 6 pts

Failure to observe taxi rank discipline: 3 pts

Driving without a taxi driver’s licence: 12 pts

Smoking in a taxi: 3 pts

Refusing to accept a fare without reasonable cause: 4 pts

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Source; http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:25 pm 
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Unreasonably prolonging a journey or overcharging 4 points

Failure to have a working fire extinguisher 3 pts

Won't this only become apparent when they try to use it. Having a burnt out cab should be lesson enough imo

Touting or illegally plying for hire: 9 pts

Is this not already illegal and punishable?

Failure to wear driver’s badge: 4 pts

Eating food while driving: 3 pts

Is this not driving with undue care and attention and therefore already punishable

Carrying an offensive weapon in a vehicle: 6 pts

Is this not already illegal and punishable?

Failure to observe taxi rank discipline: 3 pts

Driving without a taxi driver’s licence: 12 pts

Is this not already illegal and punishable?

Smoking in a taxi: 3 pts

Is this not already illegal and punishable?

Refusing to accept a fare without reasonable cause: 4 pts

Is this not already illegal and punishable?

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Unreasonably prolonging a journey or overcharging 4 points

Failure to have a working fire extinguisher 3 pts

Won't this only become apparent when they try to use it. Having a burnt out cab should be lesson enough imo

Touting or illegally plying for hire: 9 pts

Is this not already illegal and punishable?

Failure to wear driver’s badge: 4 pts

Eating food while driving: 3 pts

Is this not driving with undue care and attention and therefore already punishable

Carrying an offensive weapon in a vehicle: 6 pts

Is this not already illegal and punishable?

Failure to observe taxi rank discipline: 3 pts

Driving without a taxi driver’s licence: 12 pts

Is this not already illegal and punishable?

Smoking in a taxi: 3 pts

Is this not already illegal and punishable?

Refusing to accept a fare without reasonable cause: 4 pts

Is this not already illegal and punishable?

Agreed most of the above is already illegal, but the points system make it easier to bin out the riff raff.

Bring it on.

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Agreed most of the above is already illegal, but the points system make it easier to bin out the riff raff.

Bring it on.


How so. If they don't have the people to police the system as it is where are they going to get the people to 'police' the points system when most authorities have been told to cut staff

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How so.

To take someone to court uses massive resources, both human and financial.

Which is why most license contraventions never make court.

With points it is so much cheaper and quicker.

Ask a copper if he would rather give a fixed penalty to a lad pi**ing in a doorway or take him to court which will take hours and hours of paperwork and expensive legal costs.

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