One thing positive to come from today is a cap is inevitable so sado jim away and lie in yer pish ,so shorty says now that he is bard
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| Author: | Jasbar [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dundee taxi cap? - What's the benefit for drivers? |
Current - no cap Number of fares low. Current taxi level - work spread thinly. After period of adjustment - Drivers and owners leave trade. Their fares spread among remainder of drivers. Increase in fares. ********** With cap. Number of fares low. Plates accrue a value, now or in the future. Owners hold onto taxis. No reduction in numbers. Same number of taxis. Fares spread just as thinly as before the cap - no change. No improvement, or prospect of improvement, for drivers. New entrants enter PH trade rather than taxi trade. PH rise exponentially - as in Glasgow. Taxi trade loses its critical mass PH determines price structure, based on heir cheaper cost base Customers vote with their business and switch to cheaper PH. Taxi trade loses work - PH expands (Edinburgh) Fares for drivers spread even more thinly. Now, I'm wrong where precisely? |
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| Author: | toots [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:50 am ] |
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Is that with the mixed fleet that they currently have or with the proposed all WAV fleet that the council would like? |
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| Author: | Over & Out [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:54 am ] |
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toots wrote: Is that with the mixed fleet that they currently have or with the proposed all WAV fleet that the council would like?
Come on Toots if we ignore him he will probably go away after all, every thread is the same old drivel |
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| Author: | Jasbar [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:37 am ] |
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Over & Out wrote: toots wrote: Is that with the mixed fleet that they currently have or with the proposed all WAV fleet that the council would like? Come on Toots if we ignore him he will probably go away after all, every thread is the same old drivel So, it's drivel. And I'm wrong. That's OK. But before youtrot off into yourvested interests sunset. Where am I getting this wrong? |
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| Author: | Stationtone [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:39 pm ] |
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One thing positive to come from today is a cap is inevitable so sado jim away and lie in yer pish ,so shorty says now that he is bard
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| Author: | youbeenbusy [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:09 pm ] |
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Just about everything Jasber says about the CAP is true in my local area.He does talk sense but because he is a figure of fun some of you choose to ignore his valid points . |
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| Author: | Stationtone [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:46 pm ] |
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Quote: Figure of fun
fecking nutter more like
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| Author: | Skull [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:24 pm ] |
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Your dream is that a cap on plates is going to turn Dundee into the promised land. So how long after this little miracle is the milk and honey going to follow? With all this work and big rentals coming your way you won't know what to do with yourselves.
It's the same in Edinburgh. 
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| Author: | Jasbar [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:51 pm ] |
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Stationtone wrote: One thing positive to come from today is a cap is inevitable so sado jim away and lie in yer pish ,so shorty says now that he is bard
Sorry, I missed your answer. Where did I get it wrong? |
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| Author: | Frank Lay [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:55 pm ] |
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Skull wrote: Your dream is that a cap on plates is going to turn Dundee into the promised land. So how long after this little miracle is the milk and honey going to follow?
With all this work and big rentals coming your way you won't know what to do with yourselves. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: It's the same in Edinburgh. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Gary, It is not a cap as such that is the problem, It is the way plates are distributed that in the problem. |
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| Author: | Nidge [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:29 pm ] |
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Skull wrote: Your dream is that a cap on plates is going to turn Dundee into the promised land. So how long after this little miracle is the milk and honey going to follow?
With all this work and big rentals coming your way you won't know what to do with yourselves. It's the same in Edinburgh. How is it going to turn Dundee into the mother land you clot?? Turning around from deregulation takes years. Now do one Taylor wants some wrong love. |
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| Author: | Skull [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:26 pm ] |
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Midlander wrote: Skull wrote: Your dream is that a cap on plates is going to turn Dundee into the promised land. So how long after this little miracle is the milk and honey going to follow? With all this work and big rentals coming your way you won't know what to do with yourselves. It's the same in Edinburgh. How is it going to turn Dundee into the mother land you clot?? Turning around from deregulation takes years. Now do one Taylor wants some wrong love. That's the problem with inbreeds like you midlander, your genetic make-up only supports procreation and excessive substance abuse, thinking is for higher forms of life. Twenty years ago in Edinburgh, you could make the argument that restriction works for the taxi trade. For all intents and purposes, there was no competition. You had an infrequent bus service and an extremely sparse Ph fleet. Times have changed. Taxis are no longer operating in a restricted market with little or no serious competition. The bus service is second to none while the Ph has expanded to meet public demand. Technology and vehicle type has almost put them on a par with the Taxi fleet. The exception being the quality of the drivers, but give it a few years and even that will blur into insignificance. The last ten years have seen an economic bubble which has now burst, a swelling labour pool of drivers, a shortage of available shifts forcing up rentals and artificial plate premiums, against a backdrop of falling customer numbers. In short, the Taxi market in Edinburgh is fecked. The fact is, there is no longer a restricted market, but only a choice of how you compete in, regulate and control the market. I suspect that Taxis (wav's) have already lost their critical mass in Dundee and as a consequence, a new cap, will only force drivers owners and customers into the arms of their competitors, the Ph, diluting the market even further. Re-restriction is not the answer, and there is no turning the clock back. 
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| Author: | Skull [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:26 pm ] |
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Midlander wrote: Skull wrote: Your dream is that a cap on plates is going to turn Dundee into the promised land. So how long after this little miracle is the milk and honey going to follow? With all this work and big rentals coming your way you won't know what to do with yourselves. It's the same in Edinburgh. How is it going to turn Dundee into the mother land you clot?? Turning around from deregulation takes years. Now do one Taylor wants some wrong love. That's the problem with inbreeds like you midlander, your genetic make-up only supports procreation and excessive substance abuse, thinking is for higher forms of life. Twenty years ago in Edinburgh, you could make the argument that restriction works for the taxi trade. For all intents and purposes, there was no competition. You had an infrequent bus service and an extremely sparse Ph fleet. Times have changed. Taxis are no longer operating in a restricted market with little or no serious competition. The bus service is second to none while the Ph has expanded to meet public demand. Technology and vehicle type has almost put them on a par with the Taxi fleet. The exception being the quality of the drivers, but give it a few years and even that will blur into insignificance. The last ten years have seen an economic bubble which has now burst, a swelling labour pool of drivers, a shortage of available shifts forcing up rentals and artificial plate premiums, against a backdrop of falling customer numbers. In short, the Taxi market in Edinburgh is fecked. The fact is, there is no longer a restricted market, but only a choice of how you compete in, regulate and control the market. I suspect that Taxis (wav's) have already lost their critical mass in Dundee and as a consequence, a new cap, will only force drivers owners and customers into the arms of their competitors, the Ph, diluting the market even further. Re-restriction is not the answer, and there is no turning the clock back.
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| Author: | Jasbar [ Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:50 am ] |
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No response from drivers in Dundee either. Is Dundee brain dead?
Or are they just sleepwalking into the Edinburgh model described by Skull? |
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| Author: | Frank Lay [ Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:14 am ] |
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[quote="Jasbar"] Is Dundee brain dead? [quote] Aye jimmy boy, How to make friends and influence people! |
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