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Suburban (Yellow Badge) drivers are being capped!

http://www.taxinewspaper.co.uk/downloads/Taxi_241.pdf

Some Knowledge students are apparantly signing onto the easier Yellow Badge Knowledge with the sole intention of working in Central London. [-X

The sectors are now under review.

Some Knowledge students are apparantly signing onto the easier Yellow Badge Knowledge with the sole intention of working in Central London.

Its a pity TFL cant see the real problem and cap the endless private hire licences churned out daily.

csp wrote:

Its a pity TFL cant see the real problem and cap the endless private hire licences churned out daily.

It would be far better to improve the standards of the private hire drivers than it would to restrict them :wink:

toots wrote:

csp wrote:

Its a pity TFL cant see the real problem and cap the endless private hire licences churned out daily.

It would be far better to improve the standards of the private hire drivers than it would to restrict them :wink:

In theory yes, but in practice impossible.

Greater London has an area of 610 or 659 square miles, depending which Internet reference you prefer. With something like 70,000 PH drivers, how on earth could any organisation police so many drivers in such a vast area.

You don't even know if a licensed driver is driving a PHV at any given time and with most PH operators now using data heads without any voice transmission from the driver back to base, even the PH base operators wouldn't know whether the same driver was driving car 1234 tonight as was driving the same vehicle last night.

The whole thing is now becoming, or has become impossible to police.

you don't even know if a licensed driver is driving a PHV at any given time and with most PH operators now using data heads without any voice transmission from the driver back to base, even the PH base operators wouldn't know whether the same driver was driving car 1234 tonight as was driving the same vehicle last night.

Brummie Cabbie wrote:

toots wrote:

csp wrote:

Its a pity TFL cant see the real problem and cap the endless private hire licences churned out daily.

It would be far better to improve the standards of the private hire drivers than it would to restrict them :wink:

The fact that it is difficult or near impossible to police should not be the reason why better standards prior to license should not be implemented.

toots wrote:

Brummie Cabbie wrote:

toots wrote:

csp wrote:

Its a pity TFL cant see the real problem and cap the endless private hire licences churned out daily.

It would be far better to improve the standards of the private hire drivers than it would to restrict them :wink:

The fact that it is difficult or near impossible to police should not be the reason why better standards prior to license should not be implemented.

Now you've mentioned prior to licensing and now I agree.

But your initial posted only mentioned private hire drivers and we know that there are many unlicensed driver that drive PHVs because the brother was too tired to drive and agree that his brother could drive the PHV whilst he was asleep to earn a little extra cash.

Author:	GBC [ Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:19 am ]
Post subject:	London restricts Taxi driver numbers
Suburban (Yellow Badge) drivers are being capped! http://www.taxinewspaper.co.uk/downloads/Taxi_241.pdf Some Knowledge students are apparantly signing onto the easier Yellow Badge Knowledge with the sole intention of working in Central London. The sectors are now under review.

Author:	Sussex [ Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:17 am ]
Post subject:	Re: London restricts Taxi driver numbers
GBC wrote: Suburban (Yellow Badge) drivers are being capped! http://www.taxinewspaper.co.uk/downloads/Taxi_241.pdf Some Knowledge students are apparantly signing onto the easier Yellow Badge Knowledge with the sole intention of working in Central London. The sectors are now under review. Be interested to see which law allows him to restrict vehicles, drivers or both.

Author:	skippy41 [ Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:22 am ]
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Why dont they look into the numbers of PH instead, and possibly get the laws changed to restrict there numbers They could start by removing all those posh gits who have registered there 2 seater sports cars as PH to get around the congestion charges There is another scenario GBC and the rest might have to go saafffff of the river

Author:	Brummie Cabbie [ Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: London restricts Taxi driver numbers
GBC wrote: Some Knowledge students are apparantly signing onto the easier Yellow Badge Knowledge with the sole intention of working in Central London. Well I'm gubbered, that's a real shock!! I wonder which part of the world that idea came from?

Author:	csp [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:42 pm ]
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Its a pity TFL cant see the real problem and cap the endless private hire licences churned out daily.

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Author:	toots [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:36 pm ]
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csp wrote: Its a pity TFL cant see the real problem and cap the endless private hire licences churned out daily. It would be far better to improve the standards of the private hire drivers than it would to restrict them

Author:	Brummie Cabbie [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:03 pm ]
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toots wrote: csp wrote: Its a pity TFL cant see the real problem and cap the endless private hire licences churned out daily. It would be far better to improve the standards of the private hire drivers than it would to restrict them In theory yes, but in practice impossible. Greater London has an area of 610 or 659 square miles, depending which Internet reference you prefer. With something like 70,000 PH drivers, how on earth could any organisation police so many drivers in such a vast area. You don't even know if a licensed driver is driving a PHV at any given time and with most PH operators now using data heads without any voice transmission from the driver back to base, even the PH base operators wouldn't know whether the same driver was driving car 1234 tonight as was driving the same vehicle last night. The whole thing is now becoming, or has become impossible to police.

Author:	toots [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:25 pm ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: toots wrote: csp wrote: Its a pity TFL cant see the real problem and cap the endless private hire licences churned out daily. It would be far better to improve the standards of the private hire drivers than it would to restrict them In theory yes, but in practice impossible. Greater London has an area of 610 or 659 square miles, depending which Internet reference you prefer. With something like 70,000 PH drivers, how on earth could any organisation police so many drivers in such a vast area. You don't even know if a licensed driver is driving a PHV at any given time and with most PH operators now using data heads without any voice transmission from the driver back to base, even the PH base operators wouldn't know whether the same driver was driving car 1234 tonight as was driving the same vehicle last night. The whole thing is now becoming, or has become impossible to police. The fact that it is difficult or near impossible to police should not be the reason why better standards prior to license should not be implemented.

Author:	christopherwk [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:20 pm ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: you don't even know if a licensed driver is driving a PHV at any given time and with most PH operators now using data heads without any voice transmission from the driver back to base, even the PH base operators wouldn't know whether the same driver was driving car 1234 tonight as was driving the same vehicle last night. That is quite true. When I used to work just for one PH firm, I can go through a shift without talking to base at all. Also, it's very easy to restrict the number of PH licenses - get PH drivers to do the Knowledge as well, the same as black taxi drivers (having said that, I wouldn't mind giving it a go), it will get rid of the rubbish who keep getting lost.

Author:	GBC [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:24 pm ]
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Well it would break the chains your currently shackled to. Freedom is the name of the game as a Licensed London Taxi driver, and good earning if you're willing to work past midnight.

Author:	Brummie Cabbie [ Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:23 am ]
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toots wrote: Brummie Cabbie wrote: toots wrote: csp wrote: Its a pity TFL cant see the real problem and cap the endless private hire licences churned out daily. It would be far better to improve the standards of the private hire drivers than it would to restrict them In theory yes, but in practice impossible. Greater London has an area of 610 or 659 square miles, depending which Internet reference you prefer. With something like 70,000 PH drivers, how on earth could any organisation police so many drivers in such a vast area. You don't even know if a licensed driver is driving a PHV at any given time and with most PH operators now using data heads without any voice transmission from the driver back to base, even the PH base operators wouldn't know whether the same driver was driving car 1234 tonight as was driving the same vehicle last night. The whole thing is now becoming, or has become impossible to police. The fact that it is difficult or near impossible to police should not be the reason why better standards prior to license should not be implemented. Now you've mentioned prior to licensing and now I agree. But your initial posted only mentioned private hire drivers and we know that there are many unlicensed driver that drive PHVs because the brother was too tired to drive and agree that his brother could drive the PHV whilst he was asleep to earn a little extra cash.

Author:	toots [ Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:47 am ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: toots wrote: Brummie Cabbie wrote: toots wrote: csp wrote: Its a pity TFL cant see the real problem and cap the endless private hire licences churned out daily. It would be far better to improve the standards of the private hire drivers than it would to restrict them In theory yes, but in practice impossible. Greater London has an area of 610 or 659 square miles, depending which Internet reference you prefer. With something like 70,000 PH drivers, how on earth could any organisation police so many drivers in such a vast area. You don't even know if a licensed driver is driving a PHV at any given time and with most PH operators now using data heads without any voice transmission from the driver back to base, even the PH base operators wouldn't know whether the same driver was driving car 1234 tonight as was driving the same vehicle last night. The whole thing is now becoming, or has become impossible to police. The fact that it is difficult or near impossible to police should not be the reason why better standards prior to license should not be implemented. Now you've mentioned prior to licensing and now I agree. But your initial posted only mentioned private hire drivers and we know that there are many unlicensed driver that drive PHVs because the brother was too tired to drive and agree that his brother could drive the PHV whilst he was asleep to earn a little extra cash. The higher standards for PH drivers could be implemented over a period of years for the current license holders

Author:	cheshirebest [ Tue May 03, 2011 5:20 pm ]
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If there are any such vehicles.....surely the police can check their insurance to see if they are insured as ''private hire'' and whether the driver has a badge or not as that is a legal requirement They could start by removing all those posh gits who have registered there 2 seater sports cars as PH to get around the congestion charg[quote][/quote]

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