Brummie Cabbie wrote:
95,000 drivers to be trained in eco-driving techniques?
How long will that take?
How long will that take?
I suspect the NPHA and the T&G are already putting their tenders in.
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Wed May 11, 2011 5:56 pm ] |
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Notice 05/11 Transport for London London Taxi and Private Hire Mayor’s Air Quality Strategy Important Information for Taxi and Private Hire Drivers and Operators As you may be aware, in December 2010 the Mayor’s Air Quality Strategy was published which contained a wide range of initiatives aimed at reducing harmful emissions in London. The actions outlined in the strategy included initiatives focused on reducing harmful emissions from licensed taxis and private hire vehicles. You can find a full copy of the Mayor’s Air Quality Strategy on the GLA website at: www.london.gov.uk/publication/mayors-ai ... y-strategy. The air quality initiatives for taxis and private hire vehicles included: • From 1 January 2012 a 10 year rolling age limit will be introduced for private hire vehicles and a 15 year rolling age limit for taxis unless exempted • From 1 April 2012, unless exempted, all newly licensed private hire vehicles must, as a minimum, meet Euro 4 standards for emissions and be no older than 5 years and all newly licensed taxis must, as a minimum, meet Euro 5 standards for emissions • TfL will work with both the taxi and private hire industry to introduce eco-driving training from 2012 and to promote efficient driving techniques to reduce emissions with eco-driving elements being required for all new taxi drivers before becoming licensed • By April 2013 changing the taxi licensing regime from one combined mechanical and licensing inspection to two MOTs per annum with a basic annual taxi-related inspection undertaken by TfL Posters explaining the age limit and Euro standard requirements are on display at SGS inspection centres and a copy of the poster is attached to this notice and can also be downloaded from the TfL website. Private hire operators are encouraged to display the poster in areas where their drivers will see this so as they are aware of the age limits and Euro standard requirements for private hire vehicles. It is proposed that there will be certain limited exemptions to the above maximum vehicle age limits. TfL proposes to begin a consultation with the taxi and PHV industry in May as to the categories of vehicle it proposes should be exempted. Further information on the consultation and exemption proposals will be provided in due course. TfL is also actively pursing discounts and other initiatives that may assist taxi and private hire drivers impacted by these changes. If you have any further questions or comments regarding these changes please do not hesitate to contact us by emailing tph.enquiries@tfl.gov.uk. John Mason Director, Taxi and Private Hire 05 May 2011 For previous Notices visit tfl.gov.uk/tph Age limits and emission standards are being introduced for taxis and private hire vehicles. Make sure you know how the changes will affect you. Taxi age limits: With effect from 1 January 2012 taxis that are 15 years old or older will no longer be licensed Private hire vehicle age limits: 1. With effect from 1 January 2012 private hire vehicles that are 10 years old or older will no longer be licensed 2. With effect from 1 April 2012 any new private hire vehicle that is more than 5 years old will not be licensed Taxi emission standards: With effect from 1 April 2012 any new taxi will, as a minimum, have to satisfy Euro 5 emission standards Private hire vehicle emission standards: With effect from 1 April 2012 any new private hire vehicle will, as a minimum, have to satisfy Euro 4 emission standards If your vehicle is older than the age limit or does not meet the required Euro standard it will not be licensed. For further details please visit tfl.gov.uk/tph or email us at tph.enquiries@tfl.gov.uk MAYOR OF LONDON Transport for London Source; http://www.tfl.gov.uk/businessandpartne ... /1414.aspx and click on 05/11 Major's Air Quality Strategy for PDF version |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Wed May 11, 2011 6:24 pm ] |
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Quote: TfL will work with both the taxi and private hire industry to introduce eco-driving training from 2012 and to promote efficient driving techniques to reduce emissions with eco-driving elements being required for all new taxi drivers before becoming licensed
95,000 drivers to be trained in eco-driving techniques? How long will that take? Someone's having a giraffe!! And you won't be licensed as a new driver unless you have passed the eco-driving assessment / course? It's time to retire to Sweden, Mr GBC!! |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Wed May 11, 2011 6:27 pm ] |
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: 95,000 drivers to be trained in eco-driving techniques?
How long will that take? I suspect the NPHA and the T&G are already putting their tenders in.
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Wed May 11, 2011 6:50 pm ] |
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Quote: Private hire vehicle age limits: 1. With effect from 1 January 2012 private hire vehicles that are 10 years old or older will no longer be licensed 2. With effect from 1 April 2012 any new private hire vehicle that is more than 5 years old will not be licensed Could help reduce the PH numbers Quote: Taxi emission standards:
With effect from 1 April 2012 any new taxi will, as a minimum, have to satisfy Euro 5 emission standards Vitos for all then unless they scrap the turning circle and allow the other cabs on as the TX4 is only Euro 4 |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Wed May 11, 2011 8:39 pm ] |
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skippy41 wrote: Quote: Taxi emission standards: With effect from 1 April 2012 any new taxi will, as a minimum, have to satisfy Euro 5 emission standards Vitos for all then unless they scrap the turning circle and allow the other cabs on as the TX4 is only Euro 4 No it ain't Mr Skippy41!!! http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtop ... ti+release |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Thu May 12, 2011 12:23 am ] |
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I cannot see Geeky waisting money on a dead donkey |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Thu May 12, 2011 12:24 am ] |
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skippy41 wrote: I cannot see Geeky waisting money on a dead donkey
pmsl ......classic CC |
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| Author: | toots [ Thu May 12, 2011 12:41 am ] |
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Quote: From 1 April 2012, unless exempted, all newly licensed private hire vehicles must, as a minimum, meet Euro 4 standards for emissions and be no older than 5 years and all newly licensed taxis must, as a minimum, meet Euro 5 standards for emissions
Why the difference in Euro standards 
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| Author: | GBC [ Thu May 12, 2011 1:56 am ] |
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: Quote: TfL will work with both the taxi and private hire industry to introduce eco-driving training from 2012 and to promote efficient driving techniques to reduce emissions with eco-driving elements being required for all new taxi drivers before becoming licensed 95,000 drivers to be trained in eco-driving techniques? How long will that take? Someone's having a giraffe!! And you won't be licensed as a new driver unless you have passed the eco-driving assessment / course? It's time to retire to Sweden, Mr GBC!! Not quite yet Mr B.C, there's a recession on you know! This news has been out for some time now, and as far as I'm aware it will only apply to new drivers. The London trade are pretty strong, and TFL know this, so if some eco crap is imposed on a retro basis, London comes to a halt once more. 
There is already a massive incentive to 'Eco drive', and that's £1.40 for a litre of Derv. The Euro 5 requirement applies to new Taxi vehicles on first plate. The Merc is already being sold as a Euro 5, and the TX4 is currently being upgraded to Euro 5, albeit with the same VM engine. The Euro 4 /5 requirements for us and the Minicab trade, has been balanced by making them have a 10 year limit, and us a fairer 15 year limit to reflect the differing costs in the vehicles we buy. Goodbye £400 P reg Astra's ! 
I reckon this will knock back Minicab numbers by a few thousand, and taxi numbers by a few hundred drivers. Good news all round?! |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Thu May 12, 2011 5:28 am ] |
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toots wrote: Quote: From 1 April 2012, unless exempted, all newly licensed private hire vehicles must, as a minimum, meet Euro 4 standards for emissions and be no older than 5 years and all newly licensed taxis must, as a minimum, meet Euro 5 standards for emissions Why the difference in Euro standards Because HCs have always been a cleaner trade than PHs!!! You typed straight into that one!! 
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Thu May 12, 2011 5:33 am ] |
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GBC wrote: This news has been out for some time now, and as far as I'm aware it will only apply to new drivers.
The London trade are pretty strong, and TFL know this, so if some eco crap is imposed on a retro basis, London comes to a halt once more. That's not how I read it. It appears to apply to every licensed vehicle and driver in London. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu May 12, 2011 8:00 am ] |
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GBC wrote: Good news all round?!
Indeed. Get rid of the sheds, and the sh*t that drive them might follow. |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Thu May 12, 2011 9:43 am ] |
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I don't think worzel gummidge would want anything to happening with the games on next year |
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| Author: | toots [ Thu May 12, 2011 1:27 pm ] |
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: toots wrote: Quote: From 1 April 2012, unless exempted, all newly licensed private hire vehicles must, as a minimum, meet Euro 4 standards for emissions and be no older than 5 years and all newly licensed taxis must, as a minimum, meet Euro 5 standards for emissions Why the difference in Euro standards Because HCs have always been a cleaner trade than PHs!!! You typed straight into that one!! I never had you down as a taxi snob
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu May 12, 2011 2:06 pm ] |
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: GBC wrote: This news has been out for some time now, and as far as I'm aware it will only apply to new drivers. The London trade are pretty strong, and TFL know this, so if some eco crap is imposed on a retro basis, London comes to a halt once more. That's not how I read it. It appears to apply to every licensed vehicle and driver in London. The statement at the top of this topic does state all newly plated vehicles and all new drivers. It doesn't mention existing vehicles and drivers, well that is how I read it. |
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