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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 8:03 pm 
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Just approached by a cabbie of some thirty years standing.

Seems he wants to make application. And with his commitment to the trade why shouldn't he. And why shouldn't an application by him be granted.

He spoke to trade guru Raymond Davidson. You know him, he's one of the trade reps who claims to represent the trade but really represents no one, is elected by who(?) exactly.

Anyway, Davidson, clearly running scared told this guy that the council wouldn't even accept the application. Clearly a lie of course, the council is not entitled to refuse to accept any application.

So, our cabbie is off to make his application. The saga continues.

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Has anyone made a FoI request asking how much all this has cost the council?

Including the costs of the winner.

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Sussex wrote:
Has anyone made a FoI request asking how much all this has cost the council?

Including the costs of the winner.


On its way ... :wink:


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Some drivers will need their own taxi just to survive the coming years. This might mean working split shifts to make it pay. It could also mean using your taxi as your private car. Living within your means cutting your costs while working flexible hours, for many, will be the only way to see their family and to keep their heads above water. You can't do this paying a big rental for unproductive hours to sit on a rank. Nor can you afford to take on 50K of debt bailing someone else out to buy into a depreciating market with diminishing returns.

If you need your own taxi get together with like minded individuals. Agree, if the council refuses your applications to take them into court through a group action, the more the merry.

Existing owners who can't survive without a driver will go down the tubes, and you will pick up from where they left off. The dead wood will be cut away, and a new trade will emerge. Those who can't survive the economic reality simply won't.

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Those who can't survive the economic reality simply won't


So what happens to them? Do we just turn a blind eye and hope they go away? Do we help them and if we do, how? How do we ensure that those who do invest thousands of pounds actually see a return so they don't lose their homes or their dignity or their social lives completely or worse case scenerio everything they hold dear

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Some drivers will need their own taxi just to survive the coming years. This might mean working split shifts to make it pay. It could also mean using your taxi as your private car. Living within your means cutting your costs while working flexible hours, for many, will be the only way to see their family and to keep their heads above water. You can't do this paying a big rental for unproductive hours to sit on a rank. Nor can you afford to take on 50K of debt bailing someone else out to buy into a depreciating market with diminishing returns.

If you need your own taxi get together with like minded individuals. Agree, if the council refuses your applications to take them into court through a group action, the more the merry.

Existing owners who can't survive without a driver will go down the tubes, and you will pick up from where they left off. The dead wood will be cut away, and a new trade will emerge. Those who can't survive the economic reality simply won't.

:-|

Deerie me :roll:

Is it all right if i take a break SKULL are you sure i won't miss a £3 fare to the Radison :roll:

Dream on :wink:

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toots wrote:
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Those who can't survive the economic reality simply won't


So what happens to them? Do we just turn a blind eye and hope they go away? Do we help them and if we do, how? How do we ensure that those who do invest thousands of pounds actually see a return so they don't lose their homes or their dignity or their social lives completely or worse case scenerio everything they hold dear


Toots, I don't know what you are on about. We are way beyond the rights or wrongs of what ails the trade. For many, this is becoming a fight for survival. If you need your own taxi then why should anyone deny you the opportunity of a level playing field. :-|


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Some drivers will need their own taxi just to survive the coming years. This might mean working split shifts to make it pay. It could also mean using your taxi as your private car. Living within your means cutting your costs while working flexible hours, for many, will be the only way to see their family and to keep their heads above water. You can't do this paying a big rental for unproductive hours to sit on a rank. Nor can you afford to take on 50K of debt bailing someone else out to buy into a depreciating market with diminishing returns.

If you need your own taxi get together with like minded individuals. Agree, if the council refuses your applications to take them into court through a group action, the more the merry.

Existing owners who can't survive without a driver will go down the tubes, and you will pick up from where they left off. The dead wood will be cut away, and a new trade will emerge. Those who can't survive the economic reality simply won't.

:-|

Deerie me :roll:

Is it all right if i take a break SKULL are you sure i won't miss a £3 fare to the Radison :roll:

Dream on :wink:


I know drivers and owners that are toiling. :-|


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Skull wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Skull wrote:
Some drivers will need their own taxi just to survive the coming years. This might mean working split shifts to make it pay. It could also mean using your taxi as your private car. Living within your means cutting your costs while working flexible hours, for many, will be the only way to see their family and to keep their heads above water. You can't do this paying a big rental for unproductive hours to sit on a rank. Nor can you afford to take on 50K of debt bailing someone else out to buy into a depreciating market with diminishing returns.

If you need your own taxi get together with like minded individuals. Agree, if the council refuses your applications to take them into court through a group action, the more the merry.

Existing owners who can't survive without a driver will go down the tubes, and you will pick up from where they left off. The dead wood will be cut away, and a new trade will emerge. Those who can't survive the economic reality simply won't.

:-|

Deerie me :roll:

Is it all right if i take a break SKULL are you sure i won't miss a £3 fare to the Radison :roll:

Dream on :wink:


I know drivers and owners that are toiling. :-|


Do they sit on Haymarket moaning allday or is your opinion based on a general view :roll:

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Skull wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Skull wrote:
Some drivers will need their own taxi just to survive the coming years. This might mean working split shifts to make it pay. It could also mean using your taxi as your private car. Living within your means cutting your costs while working flexible hours, for many, will be the only way to see their family and to keep their heads above water. You can't do this paying a big rental for unproductive hours to sit on a rank. Nor can you afford to take on 50K of debt bailing someone else out to buy into a depreciating market with diminishing returns.

If you need your own taxi get together with like minded individuals. Agree, if the council refuses your applications to take them into court through a group action, the more the merry.

Existing owners who can't survive without a driver will go down the tubes, and you will pick up from where they left off. The dead wood will be cut away, and a new trade will emerge. Those who can't survive the economic reality simply won't.

:-|

Deerie me :roll:

Is it all right if i take a break SKULL are you sure i won't miss a £3 fare to the Radison :roll:

Dream on :wink:


I know drivers and owners that are toiling. :-|

There is no doubt it is tough out there but your answer is to further the pain by promoting that we saturate the market place :roll:

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Edinburgh will not saturate the Market for years..just think of all that spin off trade from the Never Never land Tram project. :?


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Edinburgh will not saturate the Market for years..just think of all that spin off trade from the Never Never land Tram project. :?

Raising revenue by restricting the taxi trade through cost could actually help ECC run and maintain the bloody Trams

Cheers for that Bloodnock 8)

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Private Reggie wrote:
Skull wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Skull wrote:
Some drivers will need their own taxi just to survive the coming years. This might mean working split shifts to make it pay. It could also mean using your taxi as your private car. Living within your means cutting your costs while working flexible hours, for many, will be the only way to see their family and to keep their heads above water. You can't do this paying a big rental for unproductive hours to sit on a rank. Nor can you afford to take on 50K of debt bailing someone else out to buy into a depreciating market with diminishing returns.

If you need your own taxi get together with like minded individuals. Agree, if the council refuses your applications to take them into court through a group action, the more the merry.

Existing owners who can't survive without a driver will go down the tubes, and you will pick up from where they left off. The dead wood will be cut away, and a new trade will emerge. Those who can't survive the economic reality simply won't.

:-|

Deerie me :roll:

Is it all right if i take a break SKULL are you sure i won't miss a £3 fare to the Radison :roll:

Dream on :wink:


I know drivers and owners that are toiling. :-|


Do they sit on Haymarket moaning allday or is your opinion based on a general view :roll:


Look at it this way Dougie, if I am wrong you have nothing to worry about, but I am not wrong Dougie. Am I? You are on this thread because you are the one that's worried, and I might just be right again. Give the guys their plates and let's see who survives and who goes under.

Are you up for taking your chances Dougie? :-|


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Skull wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Skull wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Skull wrote:
Some drivers will need their own taxi just to survive the coming years. This might mean working split shifts to make it pay. It could also mean using your taxi as your private car. Living within your means cutting your costs while working flexible hours, for many, will be the only way to see their family and to keep their heads above water. You can't do this paying a big rental for unproductive hours to sit on a rank. Nor can you afford to take on 50K of debt bailing someone else out to buy into a depreciating market with diminishing returns.

If you need your own taxi get together with like minded individuals. Agree, if the council refuses your applications to take them into court through a group action, the more the merry.

Existing owners who can't survive without a driver will go down the tubes, and you will pick up from where they left off. The dead wood will be cut away, and a new trade will emerge. Those who can't survive the economic reality simply won't.

:-|

Deerie me :roll:

Is it all right if i take a break SKULL are you sure i won't miss a £3 fare to the Radison :roll:

Dream on :wink:


I know drivers and owners that are toiling. :-|


Do they sit on Haymarket moaning allday or is your opinion based on a general view :roll:


Look at it this way Dougie, if I am wrong you have nothing to worry about, but I am not wrong Dougie. Am I? You are on this thread because you are the one that's worried, and I might just be right again. Give the guys their plates and let's see who survives and who goes under.

Are you up for taking your chances Dougie? :-|

I'm sitting at home having worked 10am-8pm so far you are wrong and trust me i have nothing to worry about :D

Although it could be better :mrgreen:

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Private Reggie wrote:
Skull wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Skull wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Skull wrote:
Some drivers will need their own taxi just to survive the coming years. This might mean working split shifts to make it pay. It could also mean using your taxi as your private car. Living within your means cutting your costs while working flexible hours, for many, will be the only way to see their family and to keep their heads above water. You can't do this paying a big rental for unproductive hours to sit on a rank. Nor can you afford to take on 50K of debt bailing someone else out to buy into a depreciating market with diminishing returns.

If you need your own taxi get together with like minded individuals. Agree, if the council refuses your applications to take them into court through a group action, the more the merry.

Existing owners who can't survive without a driver will go down the tubes, and you will pick up from where they left off. The dead wood will be cut away, and a new trade will emerge. Those who can't survive the economic reality simply won't.

:-|

Deerie me :roll:

Is it all right if i take a break SKULL are you sure i won't miss a £3 fare to the Radison :roll:

Dream on :wink:


I know drivers and owners that are toiling. :-|


Do they sit on Haymarket moaning allday or is your opinion based on a general view :roll:


Look at it this way Dougie, if I am wrong you have nothing to worry about, but I am not wrong Dougie. Am I? You are on this thread because you are the one that's worried, and I might just be right again. Give the guys their plates and let's see who survives and who goes under.

Are you up for taking your chances Dougie? :-|

I'm sitting at home having worked 10am-8pm so far you are wrong and trust me i have nothing to worry about :D

No finance worries, bought and paid for long ago :wink:

Although it could be better :mrgreen:

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