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ALI T
 Post subject: budgets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:26 am 
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Licensing 5 Year Trend 2005/06 to 2010/11 - Cab

Category 2005/06 Actual 2006/07 Actual 2007/08 Actual 2008/09 Actual 2009/10 Actual 2010/11 Actual
V100: Employee Costs Basic Pay 127,016 145,551 133,426 215,996 194,531 163,668
V100: Employee Costs National Insurance 9,685 9,172 8,308 11,571 10,248 10,354
V100: Employee Costs Other Allowances 1,066 742 790 430 829 720
V100: Employee Costs Overtime 2,177 3,588 71 272 848 0
V100: Employee Costs Superannuation 17,378 19,773 11,082 14,095 12,449 25,768
157,323 178,826 153,677 242,365 218,904 200,510

V200: Premises Costs Electricity / Gas 3,774 3,963 0 0 8,525 8,525
V200: Premises Costs Other Premises Costs 5,297 5,720 5,888 5,920 1,332 2,099
V200: Premises Costs Rates 16,106 15,674 15,362 15,985 16,781 16,187
V200: Premises Costs Rent 23,800 23,800 23,800 23,800 23,800 23,800
V200: Premises Costs Repairs & Maintenance 7,702 8,413 8,484 4,201 3,048 5,652
V200: Premises Costs Water -7,835 0 0 0 1,496 1,386
48,845 57,570 53,534 49,907 54,981 57,650

V250: Transport Costs Travel & Subsistence 233 849 279 347 65 4,086


V300: Supplies & Services Advertising 2,364 3,500 2,284 5,924 752 4,110
V300: Supplies & Services Computer Equipment 36,593 7,779 37,878 12,949 10,387 27,669
V300: Supplies & Services Equipment 1,861 9,863 2,469 14,930 28,449 43,373
V300: Supplies & Services Legal Fees 18,376 14,989 79,169 84,090 60,868 23,027
V300: Supplies & Services Office Supplies 17,242 13,923 20,723 26,223 14,028 15,338
V300: Supplies & Services Operational Materials 33,713 44,410 31,898 39,623 3,933 493
V300: Supplies & Services Other Supplies & Services 1,043 1,098 5,612 2,506 4,720 3,772
V300: Supplies & Services Security 0 14 0 0 2,732 1,615
V300: Supplies & Services Training 1,680 165 903 2,966 1,043 1,076
112,872 95,740 180,935 189,210 126,912 120,472

V400: Third Party Payments Colin Buchanan - Taxi License Conditions review 16,635 120 0 0 0 0
V400: Third Party Payments Count on Us Taxi Survey / Stance Monitoring 0 0 6,240 7,090 0 34,625
V400: Third Party Payments Halcrow Taxi Study 0 0 0 31,678 15,839 0
V400: Third Party Payments Jacobs Taxi Studies 34,000 0 17,275 0 0 0
V400: Third Party Payments NHS Fife / Capita - Medicals 91,305 81,367 63,892 95,297 126,359 82,346
V400: Third Party Payments Police Charges 339,776 327,520 338,440 361,787 418,348 407,173
V400: Third Party Payments Other Fees 566 4,203 1,896 1,567 217 328
482,282 413,210 427,743 497,419 560,764 524,472

V560: Support Services Support Services 108,411 142,745 162,516 183,776 156,204 117,162
Total Expenditure 909,965 888,939 978,685 1,163,024 1,117,831 1,024,352


V600: Income Licence Fees -539,922 -666,650 -946,945 -878,712 -940,094 -1,103,715
V600: Income Other Income 5,759 0 15 10 962 1,405
V600: Income Other Local Authorities -104,721 -111,743 -96,081 -98,943 -103,924 -139,776
Total Income -638,884 -778,393 -1,043,011 -977,645 -1,043,056 -1,242,086
Net 271,081 110,546 -64,326 185,379 74,775 -217,733


V750: Other Operational Expenditure & Income Reserves -271,081 -110,547 64,326 -128,498 0 142,958
just got this through
fecking scandalous :oops:
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ALI T
 Post subject: Re: budgets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:27 am 
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oops that didnt come out to well
its a spreadsheet ill try somit else
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ALI T
 Post subject: Re: budgets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:00 pm 
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any one know an easy way to do this cant be arsed have an image but no where to stick it on the web :sad:
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ALI T
 Post subject: Re: budgets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:20 pm 
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ALI T
 Post subject: Re: budgets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:26 pm 
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bottom roight hand cell reads

transfer to reserves limited to £142,958 to cover the shortfall created due to the unavailability of reserves in 2009/10
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ALI T
 Post subject: Re: budgets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:41 pm 
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theres some funny business going on with these survey payments

and what kind of pc's they got in the cab office £130k :cry:

obviously took on a greedy git who requires a lot of subsidence

quarter million in legal fee's

operational materials cant have been to important as they drop off to almost nothing from 2009

count on us data collection jumps to almost 5 times the price in 2010/11

halcrow why the payment in 2010

anyone any idea what nhs capita medicals is ?

£400k per year for one policeman who does nowt

notice the difference that other authorities get charged for the same work


this is a complete rip off :evil:
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:59 pm 
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Looks like a case for the ombudsman, how can just one licencing authority in Scotland have all this when the rest work on less than a quarter of that budget
Your licence fees are already on average £1000 more than the rest of Scotland, ours is £270 all in thats drivers and vehicle, test is included
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:25 pm 
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anyone any idea what nhs capita medicals is ?


Could be payments for medical examination of drivers. (exemption from pushing wheelchairs, fitness to drive etc)

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 Post subject: Re: budgets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:51 pm 
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ALI T wrote:
theres some funny business going on with these survey payments

and what kind of pc's they got in the cab office £130k :cry:

obviously took on a greedy git who requires a lot of subsidence

quarter million in legal fee's

operational materials cant have been to important as they drop off to almost nothing from 2009

count on us data collection jumps to almost 5 times the price in 2010/11

halcrow why the payment in 2010

anyone any idea what nhs capita medicals is ?

£400k per year for one policeman who does nowt

notice the difference that other authorities get charged for the same work


this is a complete rip off :evil:


Is there a financial commentary to go with those figures? :?
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Sussex
 Post subject: Re: budgets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:43 pm 
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How can staff costs go up 58% between the year 2007/8 to 2008/9?

That question has got top be asked. :shock:

And as for that bottom line, well that stinks of what ever's left just bundle it up and lose it somewhere. [-X

Someone needs to take that to the District Auditor or what ever you have up there.

F***ing stinks to high heaven. [-(

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Dusty Bin
 Post subject: Re: budgets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:25 pm 
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ALI T wrote:
obviously took on a greedy git who requires a lot of subsidence


Well if the building's collapsing then it's obviously going to cost a lot to repair it :lol:
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Dusty Bin
 Post subject: Re: budgets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:47 pm 
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ALI T wrote:
theres some funny business going on with these survey payments


So presumably Jacobs were doing it originally, then Halcrow for a while, now Counts r Us?

And difficult to compare the figures from year to year because you've got the big surveys periodically and also the ongoing rank observation figures complicating matters.


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and what kind of pc's they got in the cab office £130k :cry:


Again it's difficult to compare such figures from year to year because presumably there's one-off costs that have to be spread over several years (depreciation) and when they're sold or obsolete there could be a big profit or less arising which would distort the figures.

Also, as well as basic equipment there's also likely to be charges for engineers and bespoke software and that kind of thing, which doesn't come cheap.

The bottom line (excuse the pun) is that it's really difficult to compare these things without doing a proper audit or at the very least getting a lot more information about how the various figures are made up.
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Dusty Bin
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£400k per year for one policeman who does nowt


Presumably that's for other work that the police do on licensing matters other than for the one policeman?

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notice the difference that other authorities get charged for the same work


Is this vehicle testing and the like that's performed for other LAs, which I think I recall reading about?
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Dusty Bin
 Post subject: Re: budgets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:02 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
How can staff costs go up 58% between the year 2007/8 to 2008/9?

That question has got top be asked. :shock:


Yes, that's certainly interesting. However, what could be happening is that work previously performed by external consultants (or whoever) is now being done in-house, thus it would appear under a different heading.

Or perhaps costs which weren't allocated to licensing previously - say for staff involved in several different functions - are now being correctly allocated to licensing.

Of course, I'm just kind of guessing, but very often these figures are easily explainable and to that extent it's sometimes not wise to jump to conclusions.

If you look at overall expenditure, for example, it hasn't really changed that much over the years allowing for inflation and the increased number of licences to process and tests to perform etc , not to mention the increased costs associated with maintaining the taxi numbers restriction. :roll:
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Dusty Bin
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The most glaring anomaly with Edinburgh licensing fees is the £1,500 for new applications - how do they rationalise that?

I don't even know offhand of an LA that charges more for new vehicle licenses as compared to renewals (although I'm sure plenty do), never mind the size of the difference charged by Edinburgh.
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