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| Author: | gusmac [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:00 am ] |
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Leaked videos cast doubt on the impartiality of senior BBC presenters Sunday, 15 April 2012 01:16 By G.A.Ponsonby Videos released on youtube have appeared to cast significant doubt on the willingness and ability of the BBC to cover the independence referendum in an impartial manner. The videos, containing presentations on Scotland’s forthcoming referendum, show four senior BBC presenters giving their views to what is believed to be an audience of junior BBC staff. The presenters, including BBC Scotland’s political editor Brian Taylor, are shown attacking the fairness of the SNP’s proposed referendum question and claiming that Alex Salmond is "not impregnable". The First Minister is also accused of wanting a devo-max option on the ballot paper in order to give him a “parachute” should Scots fail to back independence. In the presentations, Scotland is described as being in financial deficit and requiring subsidy. Claims are also made that the SNP are “changing policy in order not to frighten the horses”. Brian Taylor is shown claiming that Alex Salmond wants to delay the referendum in order to “sow dissent” amongst Unionist parties, and says: “He [Salmond] wants a contest as close as possible to the next UK general election because he believes that by then his Unionist opponents will be fighting each other rather than fighting independence and Alex Salmond. He wants to sow dissent among them.” Mr Taylor also claimed that the Scottish government’s proposed referendum question was not straightforward and simple. The BBC Scotland man suggested it was designed to elicit a positive response. On the proposed question, ‘Do you agree that Scotland should be an independent country?’ Mr Taylor says: “Straightforward, simple – except it’s not. “The word ‘agree’ according to psepholigists is a welcoming word, it draws people in. People like to agree, they don’t like to disagree so the word there is good.” Mr Taylor added: “Why does Alex Salmond favour a second question, devo max, devo plus, why not just go for independence, which is the one he has the mandate for? “He wants a fall-back, he wants a parachute should independence fail to win.” The BBC Scotland political editor argues that there is a problem adding a second question to the ballot and claims that Scottish Government would have no mandate to pursue devo-max because they favour independence and Westminster does not want it on the ballot paper. “What does devo-max mandate? Whom does it mandate?” asks Mr Taylor who adds: “Does it mandate the Scottish Government? Nope they can’t do it, it’s got to be Westminster.” Edited clips of the presentation showing Brian Taylor and Andrew Neil Dim lights Embed The videos also show former Scotman editor and now BBC presenter Andrew Neil launch a series of scathing attacks on the SNP’s stance on Europe. Andrew Neil questions whether Scotland would be allowed to remain in the EU and claims it may have to join the Euro. The BBC front man also pours scorn on Scotland’s ability to maintain a stable economy and claims that the SNP are seeking to avoid accepting a fair share of UK debt. Mr Neil is shown saying: “What does worry Alex Salmond is that an independent Scotland would have to apply again for EU membership … but if he has to apply as a new member then under the terms of application now he has to commit to the Euro and to Shengen.” Mr Neil is also shown attacking Mr Salmond over the Scottish Government’s insistence that legal advice on EU membership remains confidential, in keeping with established protocols. The videos also show BBC Economics Editor Stephanie Flanders claiming that Scotland is in fiscal deficit. Despite official statistics showing the Scotland in surplus, Ms Flanders claims figures show that Scotland gets ten per cent more from the UK Treasury than it puts in. “So the question is: Does Scotland get more than she puts in? Answer, yes – about ten per cent more.” she says. Ms Flanders goes on to claim that by remaining with Sterling, and having to agree a pact with the Bank of England, Scotland would be weakened in terms of the eyes of the world and would therefore have difficulty in obtaining a triple-A credit rating. The videos, although part of an in house presentation and not for public consumption, reveal a group mindset that is almost overwhelmingly Unionist in its logic and conclusions. Their publication will do little to quell growing concerns over the ability and desire of the BBC to present the referendum debate in an impartial manner. There will be fears that the presentations are part of a drive by the corporation to ensure its staff are 'on song' as the referendum debate moves on. The release of the videos follow complaints by the Scottish Government over the conduct and presentation of the independence issue by several presenters at the BBC, in particular BBC Scotland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IepO9cnI ... r_embedded http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/re ... presenters |
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| Author: | Jasbar [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
Seems fair enough to me. You'd have to be a complete plank no to believe the whole affiat is riddled with petty party politicking, or to believe that any politician can be trusted. Take the question. Scotland would NOT be independent. It would be saddled with control from Brussels. So the question is fundamentally a political LIE. However, I'll break a habit and vote - against it. And, while I wasn't going to, I'll exercise my vote in the council elections, even if I have to vote scumbag Labour just to slap down the nasties. I just loathe them even more for forcing me to do so. |
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| Author: | Doom [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
BBC is never impartial, it's riddled with agenda freaks working their own wishes into the minds of the weak, Look at it, they can't wait to include open homosexuality into programs, you had Question Time, this one on the BNP, lets spend an hour discussing the black race and ignore party manifesto on education,defence,civil behaviour, etc etc, they had 20 topics they could've discussed but chose to turn it into hunt the white boy instead, then when the white boy gave a good account they and the other knee jerkers of the media painted it like they'd slaughtered Griffin, which if you watch it was the opposite, he answered as best he could as the deliberate and pre planned you want to kill black ppl questions were launched at him, Best question for the BBC is why do you charge a fee for your services and basically restrict a TV use to having to pay for something you may not even watch, another little protected at the tax payers cost institute for rich ppl. |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
Doom wrote: BBC is never impartial, it's riddled with agenda freaks working their own wishes into the minds of the weak, Look at it, they can't wait to include open homosexuality into programs, you had Question Time, this one on the BNP, lets spend an hour discussing the black race and ignore party manifesto on education,defence,civil behaviour, etc etc, they had 20 topics they could've discussed but chose to turn it into hunt the white boy instead, then when the white boy gave a good account they and the other knee jerkers of the media painted it like they'd slaughtered Griffin, which if you watch it was the opposite, he answered as best he could as the deliberate and pre planned you want to kill black ppl questions were launched at him, Best question for the BBC is why do you charge a fee for your services and basically restrict a TV use to having to pay for something you may not even watch, another little protected at the tax payers cost institute for rich ppl. I think you're right to a degree........I watched that episode and found myself wondering why I was feeling that Griffin was allowed to be like a victim? |
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| Author: | Jasbar [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
Which episode was that? |
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| Author: | Doom [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
captain cab wrote: Doom wrote: BBC is never impartial, it's riddled with agenda freaks working their own wishes into the minds of the weak, Look at it, they can't wait to include open homosexuality into programs, you had Question Time, this one on the BNP, lets spend an hour discussing the black race and ignore party manifesto on education,defence,civil behaviour, etc etc, they had 20 topics they could've discussed but chose to turn it into hunt the white boy instead, then when the white boy gave a good account they and the other knee jerkers of the media painted it like they'd slaughtered Griffin, which if you watch it was the opposite, he answered as best he could as the deliberate and pre planned you want to kill black ppl questions were launched at him, Best question for the BBC is why do you charge a fee for your services and basically restrict a TV use to having to pay for something you may not even watch, another little protected at the tax payers cost institute for rich ppl. I think you're right to a degree........I watched that episode and found myself wondering why I was feeling that Griffin was allowed to be like a victim? Had they let the bloke speak about all what his party stands for they would've shown the country it's not about a boot boy anymore, they have proper policies on everything in place and just then the public may well have gone for a look on their website and found themselves agreeing with most of it, but they don't want that to happen, why have anyone with an idea of how to run their own country in power, they've even managed to make the EDL look the same, yet we have to ask why, why wouldn't money ppl want a party that might take us out of Europe, why wouldn't they want a party that restricts the migration of cheap labour, starting to look all so clear isn't it, manipulation, and that is what the BBC stands for today, it's not impartial and nor is it good for the future, what these institutes do is to weaken the way of life of ourselves down to the point where a hetrosexual will be an outcast and so will anyone white, and thats not a racial thing or a phobic thing, if you are gay so be it you can't help that, but don't smash it in my face and make me feel like I'm the one nature messed up, and until the scales are balanced back to a level state there will always be a reason why nationalist parties can get a vote, what the nationalist parties are trying to do is to get this equilibrium but the powers that make the money out of global warming, homosexuality and blatant abuse of migrants don't want a fair and equal Britain. TBH, if I was Scottish living in Scotland I'd want independence as well, it's a liberty one country rules over another and I feel really sorry for the Welsh as well, especially how they've been treated by the United Kingdom, there is so much wrong with the English outlook on things tbh, in an ideal world you like to think the others can make their own decisions and be independent but also with a close knit allegiance. |
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| Author: | Doom [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
Jasbar wrote: Which episode was that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iKfrY9l2kY Watch Jack Straw make a complete ass of himself. |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
the thing is these people go on about free speech ffs they make a chap who undoubtebly is whacko look like a victim. CC |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
Of course the BBC is biased..but its fair as its biased against everyone.
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| Author: | Doom [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
I think in this case you could say he was a victim CC, they all attacked him in the same manner they accuse him of attacking others, not sure if he's a whacko tbh or just the volume of questions about the black issue made him look a bit uneasy, Funny thing is did you notice how they went on their defend the black guy crusade yet never mentioned any other creed of immigrant, like a Latvians feelings don't matter because they are white folks, it even got to the stage where it became the realm of the defence of the black Asian and the Afro Carribean got left out as well, Bob Marley has rights y'know these ppl have agendas, agendas that will become all so costly to our grand children, we have the chance to level things, if we don't the country will be plagued with what you posted in the AL thread about the cab riding Mayor and his ideas will be to relegate all women to slavery and there will be nobody to stand up and say no, go to India and see how the rich treat the poor, the whole lesson is there to be observed, those wanting that sort of Britain need rooting out.
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| Author: | captain cab [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
Doom wrote: not sure if he's a whacko tbh or just the volume of questions about the black issue made him look a bit uneasy I think he is a whacko.....but even whackos are allowed to give a point of view.....I'd have liked to hear how he translates their forced repatriations of ethnics with people who are of a different colour and live and who were born in this country. send them back to where they come from.....errm Yorkshire? CC |
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| Author: | Doom [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
captain cab wrote: Doom wrote: not sure if he's a whacko tbh or just the volume of questions about the black issue made him look a bit uneasy I think he is a whacko.....but even whackos are allowed to give a point of view.....I'd have liked to hear how he translates their forced repatriations of ethnics with people who are of a different colour and live and who were born in this country. send them back to where they come from.....errm Yorkshire? CC I don't think forced is his words, I believe they want to offer assistance packages for those wanting to leave, which will be nill btw, and to back your point there are many of them now that to get dumped back in Asia would be as alien to them as it would be me or you, my personal take on the issue is to support those that do want to intergrate and I don't think it's far away as the older generation dies off and the new generation takes over, could be the end of the Hook type where they see themselves as british rather than Asian. |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:45 pm ] |
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Doom wrote: I don't think forced is his words, I believe they want to offer assistance packages for those wanting to leave, which will be nill btw, and to back your point there are many of them now that to get dumped back in Asia would be as alien to them as it would be me or you, my personal take on the issue is to support those that do want to intergrate and I don't think it's far away as the older generation dies off and the new generation takes over, could be the end of the Hook type where they see themselves as british rather than Asian. People never integrate and the british are about the worst, just look at those resorts in spain....English bars, Irish bars etc.....look at how all the ex-pats intermingle with their hosts....not. CC |
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| Author: | blackpool [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
Prefered the Keith Allen interview to question time myself,clever as he likes to think he is [edited by admin] griffin is the same as ever.Its nice when we see him squirm.Love the way he Allways comes out with"we let anybody in whatever colour" probally cause you cant discriminate in law.Got no time for this whacco myself |
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| Author: | Doom [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BBC impartiality? My Arse |
captain cab wrote: People never integrate and the british are about the worst, just look at those resorts in spain....English bars, Irish bars etc.....look at how all the ex-pats intermingle with their hosts....not. CC Yeah that one grinds me as well, beautiful place like Spain soiled with 4 knots in the hanky bald beer bellied ignoranus' setting up a bingo hall, Spanish culture is very appealing to me (have bloodline from there 4 gens ago) chilled out and it gets done when it's done, why would anyone want to change that and ruin it. |
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