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| Author: | captain cab [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in Soton |
Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in Southampton Taxi numbers capped as cabbies struggle in recession THERE will be no increase in taxis on Southampton’s city streets – after cabbies said more competition would ruin their livelihoods. Cabbies, who complained to councillors about already overflowing ranks from a lack of work, feared even more taxis will make it even harder for them to make ends meet. Councillors agreed to follow the recommendations of a once in three-year review by transport consultants and keep the number of hail and ride cabs in the city capped at 283. Clive Johnson, chairman of the Southampton Trade Association, which has around 450 members including 100 Hackney Carriage drivers, welcomed the decision. “It was inevitable really. At the present moment in time we’ve got taxi drivers being booked for parking at the end of ranks because we’ve nowhere to go. There is no work out there.” Consultants Halcrow, who were paid £15,000 to carry out the survey, found sufficient taxis were “generally available” in the city although there was a need for more wheelchair friendly cabs. Only one third of those surveyed felt the taxi service could be improved, but nearly half thought fares should be cheaper. Nearly half the cabbies surveyed said they would leave the trade if more licences were issued, and 84 per cent said they wanted additional and longer ranks. Clive Johnson, chairman of the Southampton Trade Association. Ian Hall, chairman of the Southampton Hackney Association, told councillors there were only 15 24-hour taxi ranks in the city with spaces for 73 taxis, leaving a shortfall of 210 spaces. He added the council had shortened the ranks in recent years. Despite opposition from the trade, three years ago the council agreed to issue 20 more lucrative taxi licences - worth up to £35,000 on the open market – in a controversial secret lottery exposed by the Daily Echo. Perry McMillan from the Unite union Perry McMillan, from the Southampton taxi section of the Unite union, said: “This survey confirms what we’ve been saying all along. We feel the decision three years ago to ignore our pleas has caused a lot of hardship for the trade. And the timing of the (latest) survey, before the last eight new plates went on in December, shows we didn’t need them.” The survey also found more permits should be issued for taxis to work the docks, and that more needed to be done to improve access and reduce congestion. Docks owners ABP signed an agreement with the council three years ago to issue permits and enforce standards after concerns about scruffy drivers, cherry picking of fares, and allegations of overcharging. The permits cost £63. But the decision could be challenged as under Government guidelines Southampton City Council must show that retaining a limit on the number of taxis in the city benefits customers. One Conservative councillor, Brian Parnell, questioned whether the city should remain closed shop to new cabbies. The number of licensed private hire vehicles - around 550 - is not limited. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9766212 ... on/?ref=nt |
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| Author: | toots [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
Quote: Nearly half the cabbies surveyed said they would leave the trade if more licences were issued I'd call that a result
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| Author: | gusmac [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
toots wrote: Quote: Nearly half the cabbies surveyed said they would leave the trade if more licences were issued I'd call that a result ![]() That's just bullshit.
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| Author: | edders23 [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
experience tells a different story more badges issued people tough it out hoping the other guys jack first |
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| Author: | toots [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
gusmac wrote: toots wrote: Quote: Nearly half the cabbies surveyed said they would leave the trade if more licences were issued I'd call that a result ![]() That's just bullshit. ![]() Obviously, nobody is going to jack it in just because there are more licenses issued, it's as Edders said
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
Quote: Nearly half the cabbies surveyed said they would leave the trade if more licences were issued, and 84 per cent said they wanted additional and longer ranks. Now we all know that's utter rubbish, so why didn't Halcrow put into their report that the trade has never lost 50% of it's drivers following delimitation (although a restricted London PH trade are doing it's best to meet that target). Maybe it's because all the time we have taxi quotas, leeches like Halcrow will spin their webs of deceit. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
well they have to justify their fees somehow ! |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
Sussex wrote: leeches like Halcrow will spin their webs of deceit.
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| Author: | MR T [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
Sussex wrote: Quote: Nearly half the cabbies surveyed said they would leave the trade if more licences were issued, and 84 per cent said they wanted additional and longer ranks. Now we all know that's utter rubbish, so why didn't Halcrow put into their report that the trade has never lost 50% of it's drivers following delimitation (although a restricted London PH trade are doing it's best to meet that target). Maybe it's because all the time we have taxi quotas, leeches like Halcrow will spin their webs of deceit. Who is we.? |
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| Author: | Doom [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
MR T wrote: Sussex wrote: Quote: Nearly half the cabbies surveyed said they would leave the trade if more licences were issued, and 84 per cent said they wanted additional and longer ranks. Now we all know that's utter rubbish, so why didn't Halcrow put into their report that the trade has never lost 50% of it's drivers following delimitation (although a restricted London PH trade are doing it's best to meet that target). Maybe it's because all the time we have taxi quotas, leeches like Halcrow will spin their webs of deceit. Who is we.? And it's not will leave the trade, it's will have to leave the trade, They're pretty good over at Southampton tbh, they gave the railway a bloody nose over the permit's, all stuck together and told them to shove it and ranked across the road on public land, and that doesn't happen often does it, Now they need to get Checker Cars out of Eastleigh Airport as well and get a rank re-established, even if they can't use it it will give the Eastleigh boys something to do and keep them out of the city area. |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
Sussex wrote: . . . (although a restricted London PH trade are doing it's best to meet that target). In what way are the London PH trade restricted? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
MR T wrote: Who is we.? Surely you aren't in the gang that says 50% of taxi drivers will leave the trade following delimitation? Has it ever happen in the 75% of councils that don't restrict? And if it did, then I suspect the other 50% will be jumping for joy. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
Brummie Cabbie wrote: Sussex wrote: . . . (although a restricted London PH trade are doing it's best to meet that target). In what way are the London PH trade restricted? They're not, I meant unrestricted. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
Doom wrote: MR T wrote: Who is we.? And it's not will leave the trade, it's will have to leave the trade, That's make two in the gang now.
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| Author: | Doom [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in So |
Sussex wrote: MR T wrote: Who is we.? Surely you aren't in the gang that says 50% of taxi drivers will leave the trade following delimitation? Has it ever happen in the 75% of councils that don't restrict? And if it did, then I suspect the other 50% will be jumping for joy. Wait and see, you'll lose 50%, gain 200%, but the 200% you gain will effectively be dole driver's claiming legal benefit's as wages, you won't be able to compete anymore and the trade in general will become a master and slave thing, if it hasn't already. |
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