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Author:  gusmac [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:17 am ]
Post subject:  Just say no

:lol:

http://nodeclaration.wordpress.com/2012 ... llo-world/

Author:  Doom [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

Is this about a BBC youth TV drug warning song?

:D

Author:  gusmac [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

Doom wrote:
Is this about a BBC youth TV drug warning song?

:D
nah, that was in the Eighties. Now the beeb tell kids how to make their own crack pipes out of toilet roll holders and sticky back plastic :lol:

Author:  Skull [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

Gusmac, explain to me, how voting for Independence will force the wealthy elite and their political class puppets, to act in the interests of the Scottish people, before their own?

I honestly, have no idea what you think will change under independence. As I've said many times before, you, the people, don't really matter. The system is set up to look after their interests, and not yours.

You will be lucky, to see any significant change to your standard of living or the way you live. It may even get worse. :-|

Author:  gusmac [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

Skull wrote:
Gusmac, explain to me, how voting for Independence will force the wealthy elite and their political class puppets, to act in the interests of the Scottish people, before their own?

I honestly, have no idea what you think will change under independence. As I've said many times before, you, the people, don't really matter. The system is set up to look after their interests, and not yours.

You will be lucky, to see any significant change to your standard of living or the way you live. It may even get worse. :-|

Nice to see you getting the joke. :D

Explain to us how it won't get worse if we stay in this union.

Author:  Skull [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

gusmac wrote:
Skull wrote:
Gusmac, explain to me, how voting for Independence will force the wealthy elite and their political class puppets, to act in the interests of the Scottish people, before their own?

I honestly, have no idea what you think will change under independence. As I've said many times before, you, the people, don't really matter. The system is set up to look after their interests, and not yours.

You will be lucky, to see any significant change to your standard of living or the way you live. It may even get worse. :-|

Nice to see you getting the joke. :D

Explain to us how it won't get worse if we stay in this union.


It may very well get worse, staying in the union, but independence is no different. Now give my question your best shot. You're the one advocating independence, not me. :-|

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Gusmac, explain to me, how voting for Independence will force the wealthy elite and their political class puppets, to act in the interests of the Scottish people, before their own?

Author:  gusmac [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

Skull wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Skull wrote:
Gusmac, explain to me, how voting for Independence will force the wealthy elite and their political class puppets, to act in the interests of the Scottish people, before their own?

I honestly, have no idea what you think will change under independence. As I've said many times before, you, the people, don't really matter. The system is set up to look after their interests, and not yours.

You will be lucky, to see any significant change to your standard of living or the way you live. It may even get worse. :-|

Nice to see you getting the joke. :D

Explain to us how it won't get worse if we stay in this union.


It may very well get worse, staying in the union, but independence is no different. Now give my question your best shot. You're the one advocating independence, not me. :-|

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Gusmac, explain to me, how voting for Independence will force the wealthy elite and their political class puppets, to act in the interests of the Scottish people, before their own?

I never said it would. You said it wouldn't :shock:

Author:  Skull [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

Gusmac writes:
Quote:
I never said it would. You said it wouldn't.


No. I said it wouldn't because it's not in their interests. :-|

So if you agree with me, i.e. that it's not in their interests to put the people of Scotland first, before their own, why vote for independence?

Author:  gusmac [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

Skull wrote:
Gusmac writes:
Quote:
I never said it would. You said it wouldn't.


No. I said it wouldn't because it's not in their interests. :-|

Don't be pedantic. You said it wouldn't.

Quote:
So if you agree with me, i.e. that it's not in their interests to put the people of Scotland first, before their own, why vote for independence?


Still not worked that one out skull? You disappoint me.

Author:  Skull [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

Gusmac writes:
Quote:
Still not worked that one out skull? You disappoint me.



You're right. I've not worked it. That's why I'm asking someone as knowledgeable as yourself, to explain it to me.

So if you agree with me, i.e. that it's not in the interests of the wealthy elite or their political puppets, to put the people of Scotland first, why vote for independence?
:-|

Author:  gusmac [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

Skull wrote:
Gusmac writes:
Quote:
Still not worked that one out skull? You disappoint me.



You're right. I've not worked it. That's why I'm asking someone as knowledgeable as yourself, to explain it to me.

So if you agree with me, i.e. that it's not in the interests of the wealthy elite or their political puppets, to put the people of Scotland first, why vote for independence?
:-|


First let me ask you, where in the pecking order do you think they put the interests of the people of Scotland?

Author:  Skull [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

gusmac wrote:
Skull wrote:
Gusmac writes:
Quote:
Still not worked that one out skull? You disappoint me.



You're right. I've not worked it. That's why I'm asking someone as knowledgeable as yourself, to explain it to me.

So if you agree with me, i.e. that it's not in the interests of the wealthy elite or their political puppets, to put the people of Scotland first, why vote for independence?
:-|


First let me ask you, where in the pecking order do you think they put the interests of the people of Scotland?


The bottom of the pile. :-|

However, before you answer, have a look at this documentary, Chomsky, Tony Benn and a few others all with important points to make. Not the best documentary I've seen, but it gives you a pretty good understanding of how the real-world works. You might think it's too Americanized for a British audience, but it's not really any different here - same game, same rules. :-|


It's hosted by Woody Harrelson.

Ethos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGlu4Xlrkvc

Author:  gusmac [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

Skull wrote:

However, before you answer, have a look at this documentary, Chomsky, Tony Benn and a few others all with important points to make. Not the best documentary I've seen, but it gives you a pretty good understanding of how the real-world works. You might think it's too Americanized for a British audience, but it's not really any different here - same game, same rules. :-|


It's hosted by Woody Harrelson.

Ethos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGlu4Xlrkvc

Well that's an hour and a bit of my life I won't get back :shock: Very little there I didn't know.

Get this skull, I already know how the world works. I'm just not content to wring my hands and accept that nothing can be changed.

Author:  gusmac [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

Skull wrote:

Quote:
First let me ask you, where in the pecking order do you think they put the interests of the people of Scotland?


The bottom of the pile. :-|



Now, apart from Big business/Rich people and the politicians themselves, who else is above us in the pecking order?

Author:  Nidge2 [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just say no

gusmac wrote:



England losing Scotland to independence is like losing 1p down the drain.

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