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Author:  captain cab [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:02 pm ]
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Trading Standards rule out claims of MOT bribes among Birmingham taxis

COUNCILLORS have been told that there is no evidence to support allegations that bribes were paid to ensure black cabs and private hire cars passed MoT tests in Birmingham.

Trading standards officers investigated claims that backhanders of up to £30 had been made in return for pass certificates at council-approved garages, one of the authority’s committees heard, as part of a process of examining the existing contract arrangements.

But the meeting was told no evidence had been found and the garages concerned absolutely denied any wrongdoing.

Birmingham’s head of licensing Chris Neville told the meeting: “Drivers and even a former employee have told officers about this behaviour but have not been willing to sign witness statements. The garages vehemently deny any wrongdoing.”

At present the council demands licensed hackney carriages and private hire cars undergo MoT tests, plus a supplementary test, at one of five approved garages in the city.

But it was claimed a number of unsuitable cars were found to have passed.

The council’s partnership and contract performance overview and scrutiny committee heard they included vehicles with tinted windows and tow bars, converted vans, cars which were too small and those which resembled black cabs – all prohibited under Birmingham’s licensing regulations.

Mr Neville said that, due to cutbacks, the Government agency VOSA was also finding it difficult to investigate MoT garages.

The current set of MoT contracts, worth a total of £1.8 million to the five garages, are up for renewal and committee members called for officers to consider bringing the tests back in house, as they were before 2008.

Coun Mike Leddy (Lab, Brandwood) said: “One in three vehicles fail the MoT, which is a huge amount.

“We should go back to the in-house service where the tests, but not the repairs, are carried out by the council.”

But Mr Neville ruled out a counter proposal, from Coun Philip Parkin (Con, Sutton New Hall) suggesting the tests were opened up to all garages and MoT testing stations.

He said it was important the council protected its reputation by controlling the testing of cabs.

The committee recommended the current taxi and minicab MoT contracts be renewed for two years while in-house and other options were considered.

Mohammed Taj, a representative of the Birmingham Black Cab Drivers Association, said: “I wouldn’t suggest the council take testing back in house because then you’re at the mercy of one testing station.

“In the past when it was done in-house we had to wait forever for an appointment.”

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Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No MOT bribes among Birmingham taxis

Quote:
But Mr Neville ruled out a counter proposal, from Coun Philip Parkin (Con, Sutton New Hall) suggesting the tests were opened up to all garages and MoT testing stations.


jeezuz, a councillor with a brain?.....(N.B. ....TORY too...)

Author:  sasha [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No MOT bribes among Birmingham taxis

captain cab wrote:
But it was claimed a number of unsuitable cars were found to have passed.

The council’s partnership and contract performance overview and scrutiny committee heard they included vehicles with tinted windows and tow bars, converted vans, cars which were too small and those which resembled black cabs – all prohibited under Birmingham’s licensing regulations.

None of which are MOT fails, except in some instances the tinted windows.
Are the garages just doing MOT's or the equivalent of a pit test ?

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:53 pm ]
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pray tell WHY a towbar is a fail FFS?

Author:  captain cab [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:57 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote:
pray tell WHY a towbar is a fail FFS?



because potentially someone this a towbar owns a caravan which brings into question their mental health?

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:39 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
pray tell WHY a towbar is a fail FFS?



because potentially someone this a towbar owns a caravan which brings into question their mental health?


ive a towbar but no caravan, am i being discriminated against?

Author:  captain cab [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:40 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote:

ive a towbar but no caravan, am i being discriminated against?


buy a caravan and we'll talk :wink:

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:42 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:

ive a towbar but no caravan, am i being discriminated against?


buy a caravan and we'll talk :wink:


does a trailer tent count?

Author:  edders23 [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:28 pm ]
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Oh no not a trailer tent defo need a psychiatric assessment :lol:

Seriously though I would estimate that 25% of the hackneys in our neck of the wood have tow bars and they are not failed here so what is different in Brum ?

Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:33 am ]
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wannabeeahack wrote:
pray tell WHY a towbar is a fail FFS?

Because that is what BCC decree.

Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No MOT bribes among Birmingham taxis

The no towbar edict does not allow any Brum licensed vehicle to tow a luggage trailer and so transport emigrating passengers to seaports or passengers with unusually large amounts of luggage.

Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:42 am ]
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captain cab wrote:
But the meeting was told no evidence had been found and the garages concerned absolutely denied any wrongdoing.

Well the garages would, wouldn't they.

They are hardly going to say, "Yep, we accept bungs to pass Taxis and PHVs for their annual test. We charge anything from £10 to £50, depending on how bad the vehicle's condition is!"

And it isn't the garage that accepts the bungs, it's the individual mechanics and they get known for it.

Author:  Sussex [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:05 am ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
The no towbar edict does not allow any Brum licensed vehicle to tow a luggage trailer and so transport emigrating passengers to seaports or passengers with unusually large amounts of luggage.

Dark ages. ](*,)

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No MOT bribes among Birmingham taxis

if a (brum) hack has a detachable towbar is it breach of the regs when the lucky driver goes on his hols towing a trailer/caravan then?

Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No MOT bribes among Birmingham taxis

wannabeeahack wrote:
if a (brum) hack has a detachable towbar is it breach of the regs when the lucky driver goes on his hols towing a trailer/caravan then?

It almost certainly is.

Never forget, licensing officer like to have POWER!!

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