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| Author: | captain cab [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils Parents are calling for tighter rules on private transport for school children A staggering £27m has been spent in Kent to ferry children to and from school in private taxis and minibuses in the last year. Between April 2011 and March this year 10,838 school pupils across the county used hired transport, which includes taxis, minibuses and coaches. Of that, £31,900 was spent by Kent County Council [KCC] on school transport to ferry just one child to and from Sevenoaks to Lewes in East Sussex. But the longest single journey for a private taxi during the period was from Broadstairs to Grange-over-Sands in Cumbria - a distance of 347 miles. In neighbouring Medway the longest journey was 195 miles - with the council forking out more than £12,000 for a single pupil travelling out of the towns to a specialist education school. It is believed the majority of the money spent on private taxis by the two local authorities is for children with special education needs [SEN]. ![]() But mums and dads from the Kent Parents as Equal Partners forum [Kent PEPs] whose children have SEN, say the amount of money being spent on private taxis doesn't reflect the service being given. Debs Aspland, 41, from Ashford, has three children, her eight-year-old boy has autism, her seven-year-old son is blind and his twin sister has language and communication problems. She says drivers in some of the private hire companies don't speak English and are not trained to deal with disabled and autistic children, especially if they were to have a fit. According to guidance by the Department for Education and Skills all local authorities should ensure all drivers and escorts taking pupils to and from school have undertaken disability quality training. But Steve Wright, chairman of the Licensed Private Hire Car Association [LPHCA] disagreed, sahying "drivers need to be trained to drive - and that's all. "All drivers that take special needs children should have an escort. "That is someone who is trained to deal with special needs children. "If there is not an escort that would worry me, but that's not the role of the driver, it's the role of the local authority to have someone who can communicate with the child. "It's not the driver's duty to engage with the autistic child." As director of Kent PEPs, Debs carried out a survey of parents. Nearly 200 responded, with more than 80% saying they hadn't met their drivers before the school run. Ninety per cent weren't aware if the drivers had any disability training - with only three or four parents seeing Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) documentation. She said: "You have to take them at face value in the morning - you don't see their CRB check, so you don't know if your child is going to be safe." But Mr Wright said: "If they're using a licensed taxi or private hire it's the law that they are CRB checked." ![]() Sam Leaning's seven-year-old autistic son takes a private taxi to get to his specialist school in Ashford, 15 minutes away from her home. Sam, 38, said it was"really scary" that she has no idea if the driver can deal with an emergency: "He's got epilepsy and the escort and driver are not trained in what they would do if he had a seizure in the car or to administer medication." Jan Larkin's autistic son travels around 30 miles in a private taxi from their home in Sittingbourne to Maidstone for his specialist school. She said: "If it were somebody from the school driving the bus I'd have no problem with that because they know the children and what could happen - but it's the fact they'll have a bus driver that doesn't know anything about the children." Mum-of-three Allison Williams' autistic son also travels to New Ash Green. She claims: "We've had drivers and escorts that can't even speak English and when you've got children with language and social problems, tha's ridiculous." The parent forum is calling for all drivers to have specialist disability training, which Allison says would, in the long run, cut costs. "If the bigger companies have specialist training, quality escorts, drivers use to doing long distances and if they (KCC) planned the routes and pick ups better, they could keep the costs down." Debs added: "KCC have a legal duty to provide the transport because the children have got statements (SEN) - what they forget is they also have a duty of care. "They don't put out when they tender what the needs of the children are - they'll just say how many children there are." In a statement a spokesman for KCC said: "In the majority of instances, transport is provided as it is a statutory requirement placed upon the council. KCC is committed to providing the most appropriate solution. "Hired transport, including taxis, will always be a last resort. "However, there are times when it is the most appropriate or only way to support the child's journey to school. "KCC only uses appropriately licensed operators and drivers. Operator and driver licensing is a function of Kent's district councils. All drivers are subject to a CRB check. "Where it is required, an escort will be provided with escorts receiving KCC escort and disability awareness training. "Where a child has particular medical or other needs, the operator will be made aware and the escort will receive further information and guidance, usually from the school nurse." A Medway council spokesman said: The service currently provides for almost 1,400 children and young people, a figure that is rising as the population rises. "We have recently approved a new travel policy that will help pupils develop independence and limit travel costs in a range of ways. For example, it limits the use of individual taxis to only exceptional cases and encourages shared transport, which will not only be cost effective, but will help students develop confidence and independence as they approach adulthood." source: http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/ ... taxis.aspx |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
some interesting comments from Mr Wright
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
Quote: Mum-of-three Allison Williams' autistic son also travels to New Ash Green. She claims: "We've had drivers and escorts that can't even speak English and when you've got children with language and social problems, that's ridiculous." On this I agree. |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
captain cab wrote: some interesting comments from Mr Wright ![]() Quote: But the longest single journey for a private taxi during the period was from Broadstairs to Grange-over-Sands in Cumbria - a distance of 347 miles. Did you get that job mate? |
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| Author: | grandad [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
Know it all parents! I would be concerned that parents were seeing drivers CRB checks simply because as far as I am aware, only the council should see them and then, after making their decision on a person, they should destroy them. The parents want better trained drivers but cheaper costs, how will that work then? |
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| Author: | no tips [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
CRB checks Jimmy Savile had a clean one for the hospital work he did....
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
no tips wrote: CRB checks Jimmy Savile had a clean one for the hospital work he did....They weren't invented when he was doing that work. |
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| Author: | Doom [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
Bloody hell what is that noise I hear arriving, oh yeah it's the race card zooming in because someone stated the obvious about suitability to deal with an emergency, Yes you need to be able to communicate, and yes you should have done a first aid course imo, it's a big overlook imo and one day a child will die because of it and everyone will get detention for a day because of it, and that goes for British and foreign drivers, all should have an aid qualification. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
Transport should be means tested and some form of payment made where parents could obviously afford it, like the "big house/exec car/4x4/motorbike/flash classic sports car/big tourer caravan" on the drive family... When our 17 year old needed transport we had to cough up £225 for a student bus pass |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
Doom wrote: Bloody hell what is that noise I hear arriving, oh yeah it's the race card zooming in because someone stated the obvious about suitability to deal with an emergency, Yes you need to be able to communicate, and yes you should have done a first aid course imo, it's a big overlook imo and one day a child will die because of it and everyone will get detention for a day because of it, and that goes for British and foreign drivers, all should have an aid qualification. when Leics CC have a job with two passengers "on oxygen, may stop breathing" you do have to wonder |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
Quote: and are not trained to deal with disabled and autistic children, especially if they were to have a fit. she's confusing us with health professionals... |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
The trouble is its either book em a taxi or take on a PAYE driver (£15K a year) and get a car (£400 pcm) which is cheaper? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
captain cab wrote: But mums and dads from the Kent Parents as Equal Partners forum [Kent PEPs] whose children have SEN, say the amount of money being spent on private taxis doesn't reflect the service being given. Well best they get into their tax-payer subsidized motors and take their kids to their school themselves. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
captain cab wrote: But Steve Wright, chairman of the Licensed Private Hire Car Association [LPHCA] disagreed, sahying "drivers need to be trained to drive - and that's all. "All drivers that take special needs children should have an escort. "That is someone who is trained to deal with special needs children. "If there is not an escort that would worry me, but that's not the role of the driver, it's the role of the local authority to have someone who can communicate with the child. "It's not the driver's duty to engage with the autistic child." And that ladies and gentlemen is why we don't want to follow the bottom of the barrel PH conditions that apply in London. Please LC take note that service and the London PH trade don't always share the same bed. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kent spends £27m on private taxis for pupils |
grandad wrote: The parents want better trained drivers but cheaper costs, how will that work then? The best all round system is for the parents to take their kids to school like the rest of us. These people should be delighted that the tax-payer is paying to take them to school, but typical of this chav society they want for free more and more. |
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