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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:03 pm 
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Taxi driver stabbed mum-to be to death just weeks after he took her as second wife


Cabbie murdered a mum-to-be weeks after taking her as a second wife in an Islamic marriage ceremony.

Saiba Khatoon was killed in a ferocious attack involving three knives at her home on Darlington Road, Rochdale. She was found in a pool of blood by her seven-year-old son, Faris, and died the next day, on her 27th birthday, after being repeatedly stabbed in the heart.

Siraj Arif, of Armstronghurst Close, Rochdale, is now beginning a life sentence after admitting her murder in a Manchester Crown Court hearing. He must serve 21 years before release can be considered.

The court heard that Saiba’s pregnancy had triggered a series of arguments between Arif and his wives and Saiba's family, climaxing in the killing.

His barrister, Anthony Hayden QC, told court that ‘remorseful’ Arif was ‘a man caught in two very complex relationships’ between traditional Nazia and Westernised Saiba.

“It’s plain that in the months leading up to this fateful day the defendant was under considerable pressure. On May 7, entirely out of character, he snapped", the defence lawyer added.

Saiba was 19 weeks pregnant when she was murdered by Arif, Kim Hollis QC, prosecuting, said.

The pair had been childhood sweethearts, but were both married to other people when they started having an affair in 2004.The relationship led to Saiba ending her happy marriage to a doctor, the father of her son Faris,

But Arif, who drove minicabs for Joe Baxie’s Taxis in Rochdale, remained with his wife and obtained his wife’s grudging consent to take Saiba as a second bride, allowable in Islamic law, last December.

On the day before the killing, Arif had a violent argument with his first wife Nazia about Saiba’s pregnancy.

The following day, Saiba’s sister confronted Nazia and upset her. The fatal argument between Arif and Saiba followed.

By midnight on May 7, less than two hours after a phone call to her mother about her forthcoming birthday, Saiba had been fatally attacked.

Faris raised the alarm, running out into the street screaming ‘my mum, my mum’. Her next-door neighbour found her dying of 15 stab wounds in the kitchen, with broken blades of knives used in the attack strewn about her.

Hours after the killing Arif twice rang police. In the first, garbled call, he said he had ‘stabbed somebody’, and that he would ‘be with you in an hour.’

In the second call, he said: “We had a fight yeah, she picked a knife up and told me she was going to kill my baby, either I’ll kill my baby or I’ll kill you and I ended up grabbing the knife and shoving it in her.”

He later told a pal at the taxi rank ‘I’m finished’. He was on his way to the police station when he was arrested.

In statement, Saiba’s sister, Sara Ali, said the family had been devastated by the loss of Saiba, who was the eldest of eight children.

“She was such a loving person; she did not deserve to die, especially in those circumstances. Our happy life has been turned upside down by one violent act. Faris was extremely close to his mum and was devastated by her death. We worry so much about how this has affected him and can only hope and pray he has the resilience to cope.”

Sentencing, Judge Michael Henshell said: “It was a merciless and sustained attack on a woman in her own home 18 to 19 weeks pregnant and whilst her seven-year-old was in the house. He certainly saw the awful aftermath in the kitchen before he ran and got help. What he saw, and the memory of it, will live with him for a considerable period if not the remainder of his life and he must grow up without his mother, who died in these awful circumstances. She must have suffered in the circumstances of the attack, given the time it took, and also with the knowledge that she was pregnant and that her son was in the house.”

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:05 pm 
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Quote:
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:08 pm 
Bloody Brits at it again, can't these Brits stop all this attacking each other, I met a foreigner last week, Simon Taylor his name was, he said he'd never seen anything like it.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:18 pm 
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So the scumbag has a foreign name?

I think all this overt racism is becoming a bit tedius, and I suspect TDO's admin will finish it very soon.

Not before time.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:05 am 
Sussex wrote:
So the scumbag has a foreign name?

I think all this overt racism is becoming a bit tedius, and I suspect TDO's admin will finish it very soon.

Not before time.



Is it racism though, is it not justified data when the Capt posts these threads each day and it just happens to have a non British name as the perp? I know we think differently but an orange is an orange and a rotten apple is a rotten apple and for my money there is too many rotten apples running about wrecking innocent lives,

Racism is about hate, I'm simply highlighting who keeps getting arrested for these crimes, that is called reporting not racism, I'm not advocating anyone go out and take it into their own hands, you really do have a big lesson heading your way in the next few years regarding what is really happening,

And why highlight me, there are at least 4 other members on this site who feel the same way and openly post to say so?

I'll finish off with a little story, a story that may become reality to you some day soon, I had a hippy mate cab driver, 20 years ago he defended any and every minority group, all on the strength of the ones he knew were decent folks, then others arrived and gradually destroyed all the love in him, he quit about 2 years ago after numerous racism complaints to the council, thing was he didn't racially abuse anyone, he simply stood up to them and told them when they were stroke pulling, so from a loving fella to a bitter individual and the reason was, when they came to work with us he saw their real faces, he saw them tearing the ass out of our established custom which we no longer have, wait until it hit's your front door and pocket and lets see how much your attitude changes, and that wasn't just Asians either (one who threatened to be-head him one afternoon) it was Europeans as well, you got a big wake up call, and should your LC plans come to fruit it will be arriving even quicker, I won't say I told you so McBlinkers.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:12 am 
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a turkish chap bought a cab here.

he refused to load a wheelchair the same week as a white chap, both had their licenses revoked, it was a well publicised story, posted on tdo.

there were a couple of more allegations made about the turkish chap, including one where he allegedly was arrested for sexual assault (the girl cried rape) - howver he was 'quick witted' enough to get his mobile phone out and tape the 'consent' from a girl half his age.

Within a couple of weeks of the above allegations - and allegated arrest and subsequent release from police cells - he forcefully pinned a young girl against his cab who was a few pounds short of the cab fare.

She complained and he had his license immediately suspended (after it took another cab driver to persuade the girl to report the incident).

He's now back in Turkey.

Sadly - he could probably apply for a license in another area - as councils dont pass on information - and no criminal charges have been brought.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:16 am 
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Sussex wrote:
So the scumbag has a foreign name?

I think all this overt racism is becoming a bit tedius, and I suspect TDO's admin will finish it very soon.

Not before time.


Its hardly racism...the guy might be a white for all we know!! but the one thing that rears it's head in many such cases is names that are hardly British in origin...it might make some think that certain "quick to Violence" ways are becoming more acceptable in modern Multi-Cultural Britain than we would otherwise like or could expect.

If TDO see's fit to appease your penchant for a curb on free speech or opinion, then so be it...but I for one will have nowt to do with it thereafter.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:19 am 
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bloodnock wrote:
Sussex wrote:
So the scumbag has a foreign name?

I think all this overt racism is becoming a bit tedius, and I suspect TDO's admin will finish it very soon.

Not before time.


Its hardly racism...the guy might be a white for all we know!! but the one thing that rears it's head in many such cases is names that are hardly British in origin...it might make some think that certain "quick to Violence" ways are becoming more acceptable in modern Multi-Cultural Britain than we would otherwise like or could expect.

If TDO see's fit to appease your penchant for a curb on free speech or opinion, then so be it...but I for one will have nowt to do with it thereafter.



yeah.....one might think a family leaving Ireland during the hunger.....going to Scotland for a generation and then leaving for England were foreigners too :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:30 am 
I thank you two for your sensible and clear look at how things are, sadly Mr Sussex lives in a more desirable expensive place that kinda limits and protects the area from a lot of things that happen elsewhere,

I get really miffed off with the racism tag as well, but if push comes to shove I'd rather be known as (not proven to be one btw) racist than a blind mute in my own back yard, and for the record those lining me up in their PC scopes can suck on this.........I could bring you well over 50 foreign drivers who will speak up for me, the reason is as I've said before, I'm an assholeist not a racist, the ones I find ok I help, help quite a lot infact, but that doesn't mean I'm going to sit by and watch those that don't live it give opinion on what they know nothing of,

Lately there are calls for the LC to tighten up on badge awarding, shall I list all the names of people (who quite rightly) raised this issue, shall we label them racist's as well, NO I didn't think so either, fact is the country is infiltrated by all sorts of bad dudes from other shores, now I suggest you get in the program and work towards stopping them so the good foreign guy doesn't have to wear their stain anymore.

Is that a fair comment?


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If you look at Carlisle TOA's response and then look at the sexual assault and rapes by police authority area, a picture is there for those looking closely enough.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:37 am 
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If you look at Carlisle TOA's response and then look at the sexual assault and rapes by police authority area, a picture is there for those looking closely enough.


Link please Capt.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:41 am 
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captain cab wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Sussex wrote:
So the scumbag has a foreign name?

I think all this overt racism is becoming a bit tedius, and I suspect TDO's admin will finish it very soon.

Not before time.


Its hardly racism...the guy might be a white for all we know!! but the one thing that rears it's head in many such cases is names that are hardly British in origin...it might make some think that certain "quick to Violence" ways are becoming more acceptable in modern Multi-Cultural Britain than we would otherwise like or could expect.

If TDO see's fit to appease your penchant for a curb on free speech or opinion, then so be it...but I for one will have nowt to do with it thereafter.



yeah.....one might think a family leaving Ireland during the hunger.....going to Scotland for a generation and then leaving for England were foreigners too :wink:


I never noticed anyone going by an Irish surname being accused of violence in the article..but hey ho...I'm often accused of not reading things through, so maybe I missed it..


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But Arif, who drove minicabs for Joe Baxie’s Taxis in Rochdale, remained with his wife and obtained his wife’s grudging consent to take Saiba as a second bride, allowable in Islamic law, last December.

On the day before the killing, Arif had a violent argument with his first wife Nazia about Saiba’s pregnancy.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:44 am 
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bloodnock wrote:

I never noticed anyone going by an Irish surname being accused of violence in the article..but hey ho...I'm often accused of not reading things through, so maybe I missed it..


Or maybe an Irish surname that actually changed slightly due to racism?

You forget, before those London boarding houses stated things like 'no blacks'.....they stated no dogs, no pets, no irish.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:47 am 
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But Arif, who drove minicabs for Joe Baxie’s Taxis in Rochdale, remained with his wife and obtained his wife’s grudging consent to take Saiba as a second bride, allowable in Islamic law, last December.

On the day before the killing, Arif had a violent argument with his first wife Nazia about Saiba’s pregnancy.


Happy families..



You've just highlighted another rankle of mine, how shabby and bad they treat women, they see women as baby factories and cleaners and nothing more, if I took two wives what would that make me? not too popular in the close I would assume, but hey ho, double standards again, so FTR I want Asian ladies represented and respected a bit more in future, and while were discussing FACTS! did anyone hear about the Pakistani kid who they shot because she was speaking out for education rights, she's here now and hopefully our Doc's will be able to save her, but what sort of animal tries to gag a child by trying to kill it?


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