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| Author: | lewdboy [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cop Squad |
Cop Squad episode 5/10 Cambridgeshire police operate a sting on PHC picking up on the street with undercover WPCs and confronted by Cab Office at final destination. A simple operation that is carried out infrequently but enough to strip licences and create 'chatter' in the PHC community to act as a deterrant. Low cost and effective. Chances of similar operations in Lothian & Borders - zero. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cop Squad |
lewdboy wrote: Cop Squad episode 5/10 Cambridgeshire police operate a sting on PHC picking up on the street with undercover WPCs and confronted by Cab Office at final destination. A simple operation that is carried out infrequently but enough to strip licences and create 'chatter' in the PHC community to act as a deterrant. Low cost and effective. Chances of similar operations in Lothian & Borders - zero. And all that might become illegal down here from November 1st.
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cop Squad |
It's little more than Entrapment, This individual crime wouldn't have happened if the officer had not set it up in the first place. even if the PH driver was a compulsive illegal touter he was lead into breaking the law by an officer of the law...that's a tad naughty. |
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| Author: | LongshanksED [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cop Squad |
Don't know if it is entrapment If the undercover officers approach the PHC and ask if they want a fare, then yeah, entrapment as the officer is leading the driver into an illegal act But if the PHC driver approaches the undercover officers and touting then it isn't entrapment as the driver IS performing an illegal act |
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| Author: | Skiman [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cop Squad |
Sussex wrote: lewdboy wrote: Cop Squad episode 5/10 Cambridgeshire police operate a sting on PHC picking up on the street with undercover WPCs and confronted by Cab Office at final destination. A simple operation that is carried out infrequently but enough to strip licences and create 'chatter' in the PHC community to act as a deterrant. Low cost and effective. Chances of similar operations in Lothian & Borders - zero. And all that might become illegal down here from November 1st. ![]() Why?? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cop Squad |
Skiman wrote: Why?? Because the Rippa laws are being changed. ![]() I take it this important issue isn't being discussed in the morgue forum.
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| Author: | Skiman [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cop Squad |
Sussex wrote: Skiman wrote: Why?? Because the Rippa laws are being changed. ![]() I take it this important issue isn't being discussed in the morgue forum. ![]() No it certainly isn't, but I must have missed it on here! BTW what went wrong this afternoon?
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| Author: | Skiman [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cop Squad |
Sussex wrote: Skiman wrote: Why?? Because the Rippa laws are being changed. ![]() I take it this important issue isn't being discussed in the morgue forum. ![]() Having looked at the gov web site, which is mind blowing, So, cutting through the legal jargon, which you would need a PHD to begin to understand, does it meen that stings would become illegal? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cop Squad |
Skiman wrote: So, cutting through the legal jargon, which you would need a PHD to begin to understand, does it meen that stings would become illegal? Only if the offence's penalty is less than six months in jail. Illegal hiring/touting doesn't carry a prison penalty, so councils can't, legally, IMO entrap or test purchase.
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cop Squad |
Sussex wrote: Skiman wrote: So, cutting through the legal jargon, which you would need a PHD to begin to understand, does it meen that stings would become illegal? Only if the offence's penalty is less than six months in jail. Illegal hiring/touting doesn't carry a prison penalty, so councils can't, legally, IMO entrap or test purchase. ![]() They can still do a sting under crime and disorder, plus invalidating insurance does carry prison sentence so there's ways round it IMO. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cop Squad |
Nidge2 wrote: They can still do a sting under crime and disorder, plus invalidating insurance does carry prison sentence so there's ways round it IMO. Maybe, but at least your council wont be able to use those cameras to suspend drivers for over ranking.
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cop Squad |
Sussex wrote: Nidge2 wrote: They can still do a sting under crime and disorder, plus invalidating insurance does carry prison sentence so there's ways round it IMO. Maybe, but at least your council wont be able to use those cameras to suspend drivers for over ranking. ![]() Of course there is that.
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