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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:04 pm 
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Private hire driver let’s Man with No driving license use his "Taxi"


The owner of a private hire vehicle will pay almost £1,000 in court costs after allowing a man who had no driving licence to use his vehicle.

Mohammad Jamil, 48, of Kingsway, Didsbury, gave his vehicle to Muhammad Hashmi, who used a forged private hire licence badge while driving without a DVLA licence or insurance.

Manchester City Council licensing officers, acting on intelligence, uncovered Hashmi’s fraud, before further investigation in collaboration with Greater Manchester Police revealed that he had no licence of any kind.

Jamil admitted to the offence of allowing an unlicensed private hire driver to drive a vehicle under his control. He was handed a conditional discharge at Manchester Magistrates Court on Wednesday 17 October and ordered to pay costs of £977.14.

Hashmi, 36, of Harcourt St, Reddish, pleaded guilty to driving a private hire vehicle with a forged badge, no valid DVLA driving licence or insurance, on 20 June this year. Magistrates sentenced him to 100 hours unpaid work and left him to pay £250 in court costs.

Executive member for the environment, Councillor Nigel Murphy, said: “Jamil’s flagrant negligence and Hashmi’s disregard for passenger safety have been rightly punished. This sends a clear message that offences such as these will be detected and prosecuted by our dedicated officers.”


source: http://manchestergazette.co.uk/?p=2064

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:51 pm 
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Does the punishment fit the crime? IMO no.

But don't blame the courts, blame the law makers.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:08 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Does the punishment fit the crime? IMO no.

But don't blame the courts, blame the law makers.


I don't..I blame it on the courts fear of upsetting minority groups by being seen to punish them properly as equals.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:19 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:
I don't..I blame it on the courts fear of upsetting minority groups by being seen to punish them properly as equals.

Well you are wrong then.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:49 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
I don't..I blame it on the courts fear of upsetting minority groups by being seen to punish them properly as equals.

Well you are wrong then.


He usually is :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:29 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
Sussex wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
I don't..I blame it on the courts fear of upsetting minority groups by being seen to punish them properly as equals.

Well you are wrong then.


He usually is :lol:


I'm not Wrong, Its pretty obvious to most people that certain groups receive different treatment to other groups, it's neither a racist or inflammatory comment, it's an observation that jumps out to those of us who can bypass trendy liberal style views and start to look at the bleeding obvious.. :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:40 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:
I'm not Wrong,

You are wrong.

We can spend forever going on about this, but take it from me you are wrong.

Parliament make the laws and set the sentences. Courts pass sentences in line with what parliament legislates for.

The sentence passed was in line with the law.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:29 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
I'm not Wrong,

You are wrong.

We can spend forever going on about this, but take it from me you are wrong.

Parliament make the laws and set the sentences. Courts pass sentences in line with what parliament legislates for.

The sentence passed was in line with the law.


But the Law has a degree of flexibility which means that it can be more or less of a sentence than is recommended..nothings set in stone.

And I'm still right, there is a certain amount of tolerance and lightness of sentence shown to some over others..


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:34 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:
But the Law has a degree of flexibility which means that it can be more or less of a sentence than is recommended..nothings set in stone.

And I'm still right, there is a certain amount of tolerance and lightness of sentence shown to some over others..

Indeed it does, but the sentence imposed was on the higher end of those flexibilities.

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I think the main point here is that an unlicensed driver was ACTUALLY caught driving a PH car which makes a nice change

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