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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:59 pm 
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Minor convictions could cost cab jobs

Taxi and private hire drivers in Bedford claim that they may not be able to renew their licences because of tighter rules on criminal convictions.

Drivers welcome the move, which 
started in January 2011 and affects drivers at the time of licence renewal, but they claim that cabbies with minor spent 
convictions could be affected.

Balal Shah, spokesman for Bedford’s private hire drivers, said: “I fully support the CRB system and played a pivotal part in bringing that in.

“But drivers who have been working for the past 20 years without problems, yet have a minor criminal conviction such as no insurance, could be banned from 
driving a cab for 10 years.

“Drivers have been previously allowed to drive with a minor conviction but 
under the new measures they could lose their job even if they only made one 
mistake. For minor convictions this is a serious concern but for severe convictions I fully agree with this policy.”

A Borough Hall spokesman said: “All licensing applications are judged on their individual merits. Between September 1 and October 31, 2012, five licensing 
applications were refused. Of these, four applicants were found to have been 
convicted of a violent offence and one applicant had failed the Basic English Assessment for such licensees and there were also two sexual offence allegations against the applicant.”

http://www.bedfordtoday.co.uk/news/loca ... -1-4464703

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:09 pm 
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If a council gave you a license last year, and since then you haven't committed another offence, then the council has to issue you another license.

Unless they have very good reason not to.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:43 pm 
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yet have a minor criminal conviction such as no insurance,


minor? :shock:

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Taxi and private hire drivers in Bedford claim that they may not be able to renew their licences because of tighter rules on criminal convictions.


Right, that either means there were NO rules previously or there are NEW rules, HOWEVER a CRB is just a CRB, its a print out of all criminal convictions, it is upto the licensing committee wether to grant a licence or not, if you had old convictions on your previous CRB they will still be the same on any new CRB, or are they claiming there was no CRB check?


No insurance is not (in my eyes) a minor conviction

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“But drivers who have been working for the past 20 years without problems, yet have a minor criminal conviction such as no insurance, could be banned from 
driving a cab for 10 years.


I think I can see what is REALLY the worry though...

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A Borough Hall spokesman said: “All licensing applications are judged on their individual merits. Between September 1 and October 31, 2012, five licensing 
applications were refused. Of these, four applicants were found to have been 
convicted of a violent offence and one applicant had failed the Basic English Assessment for such licensees and there were also two sexual offence allegations against the applicant.”

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:45 am 
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Talk about Turkeys voting for Christmas. #-o

Surely, only convictions directly relating to your ability to do your job should be used to deny a licence?

Think about it, any conviction, regardless how trivial, and your licence is potentially gone.

Where’s your criteria/standards/benchmarks or precedent used for deciding what constitutes “a fit and proper person" to hold a licence?
If you have one slip-up, a breach of the peace even, because of an argument with your neighbour, and it’s, good-bye licence?

You lot must be mad. You would have to be insane to agree to CRB, checks before first finding out how they would be used, and what a “fit and proper person” is in the first place.

Deary me… thick or what? #-o

Balal Shah, spokesman for Bedford’s private hire drivers, said: “I fully support the CRB system and played a pivotal part in bringing that in.

What a tool... #-o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:27 am 
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Oh and another wee thought, how does maybe one or two minor incident's possibly years apart, establish a pattern of habitual criminal behaviour? Potentially, you could have carried thousands, if not tens of thousands of fares over many years without a problem, and then you get caught kicking the neighbour’s cat, or pi*sing at the side of the road after a night out, and you're up before the council:? #-o #-o #-o


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Talk about Turkeys voting for Christmas. #-o

Surely, only convictions directly relating to your ability to do your job should be used to deny a licence?

Think about it, any conviction, regardless how trivial, and your licence is potentially gone.

Where’s your criteria/standards/benchmarks or precedent used for deciding what constitutes “a fit and proper person" to hold a licence?
If you have one slip-up, a breach of the peace even, because of an argument with your neighbour, and it’s, good-bye licence?

You lot must be mad. You would have to be insane to agree to CRB, checks before first finding out how they would be used, and what a “fit and proper person” is in the first place.

Deary me… thick or what? #-o

Balal Shah, spokesman for Bedford’s private hire drivers, said: “I fully support the CRB system and played a pivotal part in bringing that in.

What a tool... #-o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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I can't see it we have drivers who picked up such minor convictions as kidnapping and were allowed to keep their badge ! :sad:

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Here’s another little nugget. What is it with taxi drivers, wanting to hand their local authorities their a*s on a silver platter? When it comes to regulating their trade? I just don’t get it. Any other industry would be seeking to protect themselves from these power-mad clowns, but not the taxi trade. Nae wonder your trade is fu*ked. #-o


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Skull wrote:
Here’s another little nugget. What is it with taxi drivers, wanting to hand their local authorities their a*s on a silver platter? When it comes to regulating their trade? I just don’t get it.

Any other industry would be seeking to protect themselves from these power-mad clowns, but not the taxi trade. Nae wonder your trade is fu*ked. #-o


Maybe the "trade" needs to be squeaky-clean cos they are in close contact with the public including children and women, even then some cant keep their hands to themselves

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wannabeeahack wrote:
Skull wrote:
Here’s another little nugget. What is it with taxi drivers, wanting to hand their local authorities their a*s on a silver platter? When it comes to regulating their trade? I just don’t get it.

Any other industry would be seeking to protect themselves from these power-mad clowns, but not the taxi trade. Nae wonder your trade is fu*ked. #-o


Maybe the "trade" needs to be squeaky-clean cos they are in close contact with the public including children and women, even then some cant keep their hands to themselves


What the fu*k has that comment got to do with anything I’ve written, on this subject?

However, your comment does explain why your trade is fu*ked. It obviously has something to do with taxi drivers being fu*king idiots.
There is a huge difference between being rightfully denied a licence and having your licence suspended or revoked over something totally unrelated to your ability to do your job.

Agreeing to Councillors judging each case on its merits means they can remove your licence for absolutely anything. As long as they give you a “fair” hearing, which is simply jumping you through the process. You are left without a leg to stand on.

I get the feeling wanabeahack. You obviously see yourself as some sort of paragon, of cab driving virtue. That everyone should aspire to imitate. #-o In other words, you’re a dickhead. #-o

It appears turkeys do vote for Christmas after all and wanabeahack is living proof. #-o


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Skull wrote:

I get the feeling wanabeahack. You obviously see yourself as some sort of paragon, of cab driving virtue. That everyone should aspire to imitate. #-o In other words, you’re a dickhead. #-o

It appears turkeys do vote for Christmas after all and wanabeahack is living proof. #-o


You got that one right. :lol:

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Skull, you may be happy to have murderers, rapists, druggies and muggers given badges, most normal people may have concerns though

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wannabeeahack wrote:
Skull, you may be happy to have murderers, rapists, druggies and muggers given badges, most normal people may have concerns though


Who said anything about murderers, rapists, druggies and muggers driving taxis?

The truth is, you're a dickhead trying to justify your stupidity. You would hang yourself out to dry, and everyone else, for that matter, in some vain attempt to impress those you empower through your ignorance. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

What a clown... #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


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Skull wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Skull, you may be happy to have murderers, rapists, druggies and muggers given badges, most normal people may have concerns though


Who said anything about murderers, rapists, druggies and muggers driving taxis?

The truth is, you're a dickhead trying to justify your stupidity. You would hang yourself out to dry, and everyone else, for that matter, in some vain attempt to impress those you empower through your ignorance. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

What a clown... #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


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