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Author:  skippy41 [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:44 pm ]
Post subject:  About bloody time

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/368 ... ving-test-

'FOREIGNERS MUST TAKE DRIVING TEST'



Some feel there should be a competency test
Sunday January 6,2013
By Eugene Henderson and Andrew Baxter Have your say(15)
BRITAIN’S roads are jammed with more than half a million EU nationals who have obtained a UK driving licence without ­taking a test in Britain.

Immigrants born in EU countries can simply swap their home country licence for a British one. They can then carry on driving until they are 70.

However, several major crashes have left road safety campaigners calling for foreign drivers to be examined before being issued with a UK licence.

Incomers from 20 other mainly Commonwealth countries have 12 months’ grace before they must surrender their licence in exchange for a British one.

Only immigrants from countries with no reciprocal agreement must take a test if they wish to carry on motoring.

The number of EU citizens applying for a UK licence has risen dramatically since the European Union was enlarged in 2004. Just 10,373 EU migrants converted their licence for a British one in 1992.

Last year 54,032 of 83,553 EU applicants were issued a UK licence.

Immigrants from Poland have applied for the highest number of exchanges, 135,079 since 2004 when it was one of 10 countries admitted to the EU. Italians are the second most likely to trade in their licences followed by Lithuanians, Germans, French and Romanians.

Last night Brian Gregory, chairman of the Alliance of British Drivers, said: “Driving standards vary widely within the European Union.

“There should be a competency test for people coming in.

“It would be very sensible to conduct a Highway Code test to check that they understand the basic rules of the road.”

One driver, Daisy McEvoy, knows the dangers of foreign motorists living in the UK. A drunk Polish driver moved to the right-hand-side of the road and smashed head on into her car.

North Staffordshire magistrates heard Marian Mikolajczyk’s Fiat Punto had no reason to be on the wrong side of the road. They were told he had probably “reverted to driving as he would have done in Poland”. Mikolajczyk, 32, who had been drinking after a row with his girlfriend, was more than twice the drink-drive limit.


There should be a competency test for people coming in
Brian Gregory


He was banned from the roads for 30 months after admitting drink driving and driving without due care on the A520 in Leek, Staffordshire, in August 2010.

Miss McEvoy, who suffered a broken coccyx, swollen knee and severe bruising to her face and neck, said: “The whole thing makes me really angry.”

The cases of EU licences being rubber-stamped was highlighted by insurance firm Swiftcover which obtained the figures under Freedom of Information rules.

Chief claims officer Robin Reames said: “UK roads are very different to those overseas so it is vital new motorists learn as much as they can. This could include ­taking a few lessons if necessary.”

Andrew Howard, the AA’s head of road safety, said motorists driving on an ­unfamiliar side of the road are cause for concern but a compulsory practical test could harm tourism.

The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency said the reciprocal arrangement between EU member states was made on the basis that driving tests in all countries are equally rigorous.

A Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents spokesman said: “It is crucial to ensure drivers gained their original licence by passing a test in a country that has demonstrated its test standards and licensing regime are comparable to those of Great Britain.”

Author:  Sussex [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: About bloody time

From memory folks can drive for 12 months, go back to their home country for a day, and then come back fully able to drive another 12 months.

I don't know anywhere that has a harder driving test, so it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that this system is being abused. :sad:

Author:  edders23 [ Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:43 pm ]
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The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency said the reciprocal arrangement between EU member states was made on the basis that driving tests in all countries are equally rigorous.

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Let me guess EU beaurocrats didn't want to offend the governments of some of the newer EU members when they decided that !!!!

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:40 pm ]
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mirror, indicate, maneuver

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Author:  trotskys twin [ Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: About bloody time

Agreed its a major scam in london where the delighful proprietors import Drivers from the EU I reckon no hack or PH license until you have driven on a full in the UK for 5 years :D :D :D :D

Author:  Sussex [ Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:18 pm ]
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trotskys twin wrote:
Agreed its a major scam in london where the delighful proprietors import Drivers from the EU I reckon no hack or PH license until you have driven on a full in the UK for 5 years :D :D :D :D

Or passed a DVLA taxi driving test.

Author:  edders23 [ Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:25 pm ]
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I think a minimum of 3 years clean crb record in UK BUT I agree with sussex on this that the DVLA taxi test should be sufficient to demonstrate competence

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:35 pm ]
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edders23 wrote:
I think a minimum of 3 years clean crb record in UK BUT I agree with sussex on this that the DVLA taxi test should be sufficient to demonstrate competence


kin el, how do the rest pass?......lol

Author:  trotskys twin [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:03 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:
Agreed its a major scam in london where the delighful proprietors import Drivers from the EU I reckon no hack or PH license until you have driven on a full in the UK for 5 years :D :D :D :D

Or passed a DVLA taxi driving test.


No disagree they must have driving experience in this country its essential and by the way a requirement for PH in London, you must have had a full License for 3 years to apply
for a license so how come foreigners get round it :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Author:  cabby john [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:15 pm ]
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Hack/PH drivers down here have to re take their driving test before they are licensed - that was brought in about 8 years ago.

A story if I may, and the following all happened within a two week period.

I was stuck in traffic back a few years ago and was talking to a lovely young student from India, she spoke very nicely and obviously came from a good family, so I have no reason to disbelieve her answer, or the following people. I asked her was it hard to pass the driving test in India............her reply was............it all depends on how high the bribe that you offer is!!!! The same story was reiterated by another India student a few days later. During the same period I asked a guy from South Africa, his reply was - all we do is to ask our mates - how much did you have to pay for your license!!

This knowledge has helped to restore my sanity, when after on numerous occasions I have had the misfortune to travel behind foreign men and women at less than 15/20mph on a clear road !!! Leaving me thinking......... how in hells name have they passed their test - quite clearly they have not. It also leaves me wondering as to how many are driving over here having only driven an Army war carrier vehicle from their war torn country of origin.

The people running this country are not fit for purpose, they are risking everybody's lives day in, day out.

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:15 pm ]
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everywhere else (except OZ and Japan) drives on the wrong side, theres yer problem!

Author:  cabby john [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:18 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote:
everywhere else (except OZ and Japan) drives on the wrong side, theres yer problem!


Quote:
Best Answer

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75 Countries drive on the left. The following is a list of countries of the world whose inhabitants drive on the left-hand side of the road. Most of the drivers of these countries use right-hand-drive vehicles.

1. Anguilla
2. Antigua and Barbuda
3. Australia
4. Bahamas
5. Bangladesh
6. Barbados
7. Bermuda
8. Bhutan
9. Botswana
10. Brunei
11. Cayman Islands
12. Christmas Island (Australia)
13. Cook Islands
14. Cyprus
15. Dominica
16. East Timor
17. Falkland Islands
18. Fiji
19. Grenada
20. Guernsey (Channel Islands)
21. Guyana
22. Hong Kong
23. India
24. Indonesia
25. Ireland
26. Isle of Man
27. Jamaica
28. Japan
29. Jersey (Channel Islands)
30. Kenya
31. Kiribati
32. Cocos (Keeling) Islands (Australia)
33. Lesotho
34. Macau
35. Malawi
36. Malaysia
37. Maldives
38. Malta
39. Mauritius
40. Montserrat
41. Mozambique
42. Namibia
43. Nauru
44. Nepal
45. New Zealand
46. Niue
47. Norfolk Island (Australia)
48. Pakistan
49. Papua New Guinea
50. Pitcairn Islands (Britain)
51. Saint Helena
52. Saint Kitts and Nevis
53. Saint Lucia
54. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
55. Seychelles
56. Singapore
57. Solomon Islands
58. South Africa
59. Sri Lanka
60. Suriname
61. Swaziland
62. Tanzania
63. Thailand
64. Tokelau (New Zealand)
65. Tonga
66. Trinidad and Tobago
67. Turks and Caicos Islands
68. Tuvalu
69. Uganda
70. United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland)
71. Virgin Islands (British)
72. Virgin Islands (US)
73. Zambia
74. Zimbabwe

75. Samoa (as of September 2009)

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: About bloody time

I meant countries with a) roads b) cars and c) no IED's and d) English as a 1st language............


(that rules Japan out)




MALAWI? oh yeah......i can just imagine the driving test there.............

Author:  cabby john [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:21 pm ]
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Quote:
I meant countries with a) roads b) cars and c) no IED's and d) English as a 1st language............




Ffs you left out 95% of what you meant lol :wink:

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: About bloody time

OK

who drives on the same side as us
English as the main language
have Motorways
No civil war or pirates

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