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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:09 am 
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Coventry taxi maker LTI sold to Chinese firm Geely for £11.4m


The black taxi manufacturer LTI has been sold for £11.4m to the Chinese car manufacturer Geely.

The company has acquired the "business and the principal assets" of Manganese Bronze Holdings, the manufacturer of the cabs.

LTI in Coventry went into administration in October with 99 out of its 176 workers losing their jobs.

The deal, which it said will safeguard production in the UK, was agreed with administrators Pricewaterhouse Coopers.

source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-co ... e-21290935

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:23 am 
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London Cab Maker Rescued by Geely From Administration


Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Co. agreed to purchase Manganese Bronze Holdings Plc, rescuing the maker of London’s iconic black taxis after the U.K. automaker entered administration last year.

Zhejiang Geely will pay 11.04 million pounds ($17.5 million) to buy Manganese Bronze on a debt-free basis, the Chinese automaker said in a statement today.

Geely Automobile Holdings Ltd. (175), the Hong Kong-traded unit of Zhejiang Geely, already owned a 20 percent stake in Manganese following a 2006 joint-venture deal under which the U.K. company bought China-made components and body parts. The purchase will help Zhejiang Geely, the closely held automaker headed by Li Shufu, speed up its expansion following the purchase of Volvo Cars in Sweden.

“We are determined to restore the fortunes of this totemic marque,” Li said in the statement. “We are a long-term and committed investor and we believe the illustrious past of the London black cab can be matched by a successful and healthy future.”

London has almost 23,000 licensed taxis -- those that can legally be hailed in the street. About 1,400 new ones are registered each year, according to Manganese Bronze, a market worth about 50 million pounds annually. The company says it has supplied more than 100,000 of the taxis over the past five decades.

Known as hackney cabs from their origin as horse-drawn coaches, their drivers must pass a four-year “Knowledge” test to demonstrate an encyclopedic understanding of 25,000 streets and 20,000 landmarks across the U.K. capital.

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Regulations first developed by London’s Public Carriage Office in 1906, and updated just a few times since, require cabs to have a 28-foot (8.5 meter) turning circle, 51 inches of internal headroom, separate passenger and driver compartments and a ramp for wheelchair access.

Manganese Bronze went into administration -- a form of creditor protection -- on Oct. 30 after the discovery of defects in steering boxes provided by a Chinese supplier. The steering problems led to a recall and production freeze, cutting off cash flow. Prior to the administration, the automaker had 274 workers. It now employs 107 people. The stock was suspended Oct. 11.

The latest crisis followed a succession of shocks, including a 4,400-car recall after engine fires in 12 TX4s, threatening to overwhelm a company that hasn’t posted a profit since 2007. The business suffered a pretax loss of 3.6 million pounds in the first half of 2012 as revenue dropped 11 percent.

Survival Prospects

Manganese Bronze will continue to build its vehicles in Coventry, England, where it has assembled cars since 1948, Geely said today.

Manganese Bronze’s survival prospects were boosted on Nov. 15 when the company said it had solved the steering fault and that recalled cabs would be back on the road by mid-December.

Administrator Matthew Hammond, a partner at accountants PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP in Birmingham, said at the time that some potential purchasers had come forward, lured by a global reach that last year saw Azerbaijan order 1,000 taxis to be built in China.

“I am delighted that Geely has successfully secured the future of the London taxi company, ensuring the continuing manufacture of a world famous, fully accessible and instantly recognizable vehicle synonymous with London,” Boris Johnson, the city’s mayor, said in the statement.

source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-0 ... ation.html

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:20 am 
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No shock there.

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And are they taking over the warranty?

If not then they are doomed.

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Sussex wrote:
And are they taking over the warranty?



apparently so;

http://taxileaks.blogspot.co.uk/

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surely they will want to build their own designs, not just the old range?

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Sussex wrote:
And are they taking over the warranty?

If not then they are doomed.



According to 'Just taxis', they will be. =D>


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Sussex wrote:
And are they taking over the warranty?

If not then they are doomed.



According to 'Just taxis', they will be. =D>

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Great news for current late model TX4 owners, who have been worried about spending £36,000 on a new Euro 5 TX4 only to find that they have no valid warranty in place, due to the fact that Manganese Bronze went into administration at the end of 2012.

We have now been reliably informed that:
" Geely will honour all existing warranties on cabs and will introduce an equivalent warranty scheme for all cabs sold from now".


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:39 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
surely they will want to build their own designs, not just the old range?



Apparently they are interested in acquiring the "marque" i.e they want to build and sell worldwide the iconic London Cab I think reality might prove different though

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:23 pm 
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£11.4M....they now own the name, what about the site in Coventry, owned by Lti or leased/rented? last firm I worked for that went into liquidation the new owners recouped the cost from selling just one of the factories in Doncaster, they then owned the name, product and about 3 other sites across the UK, sold off what they didnt want and made millions - asset stripping...

Geely could sell off all the sites, build the cabs back in China at 1/4 the cost (maybe they build engines and transmissions too) and flog the cabs back here/across the world

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:53 pm 
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Years ago a company in Grantham, Aveling Barford, went into administration. They made large quarry vehicles amongst other things. The chap who was put in charge by the administrator was I believe, Duncan Wordsworth. He managed to buy the whole lot, I am told, for £1.00. The vehicle stock at the time was worth millions. He made a fortune.

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Id bet theres a fair bit of stock aswell,how many cabs left over at 35000 ? Probally enough to recoup their investment


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blackpool wrote:
Id bet theres a fair bit of stock aswell,how many cabs left over at 35000 ? Probally enough to recoup their investment

There would need to be 326 completed to recoup all the investment.

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blackpool wrote:
Id bet theres a fair bit of stock aswell,how many cabs left over at 35000 ? Probally enough to recoup their investment



I doubt it there would probably only have been about a dozen or so under construction and a few completed vehicles but most of those were probably sold by the administrator already

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Who is going to buy one now if they are made in china, made with totally inferior parts


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