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Author:  captain cab [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Minicab Drivers crying again
Minicab drivers say closure of road is costing 'thousands'


Minicab drivers say a controversial road closure aimed at protecting drinkers from being hit by cars has lost them "thousands of pounds".

Chief Inspector Steve Pont said shutting the Strand in Derby from midnight to 5am on Saturdays and Sundays would "help prevent collisions and injuries".

The road feeds into the bar area of the Wardwick. He said it was "a tight corner with a restricted view".

But drivers of private hire cars say 40% of their business comes from these bars but they cannot access the Wardwick – a one-way street – when the Strand is shut. Meanwhile, the city's yellow Hackney cabs are able to access the Wardwick via Victoria Street.

City councillor and taxi driver Gulfraz Nawaz said that the police were "making the job easier for themselves and not thinking about taxi drivers or shopkeepers" by advising Derby City Council to make the road closure.

He said: "The police stand there and let drinkers do what they want. They should be stopping them crossing the road when the cars come."

Faz Mansha, operations manager at Albatross Cars, said: "We lost thousands of pounds because of the closure last weekend. We have to tell customers to walk to another place to be picked up and, at that time of night, most of them are intoxicated.

"They see Hackney taxis are able to come down the road and think we're pulling their leg or get angry."

He added some disabled people would not be able to get to another pick-up point.

Ch Insp Pont said the road closure decision was made after taking the needs of all the businesses and visitors to the city centre into account.

He said: "We don't have the resources to line the Wardwick with officers to stop people crossing the road.

"Between midnight and 5am, there are thousands of people in that area and they are not all drunk. You could have a couple who have come out for a meal and a drink. Why should they be stopped from crossing the road?"

Victoria and Tony Jacobs say their Strand bakery, Baked, is also losing money. Mrs Jacobs used to park outside the bakery to start preparing food at 4.30am on Saturday but now starts later as she feels unsafe walking in the city in the dark, meaning she cannot prepare as much food by opening time.


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Author:  toots [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:24 pm ]
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Quote:
"Between midnight and 5am, there are thousands of people in that area and they are not all drunk. You could have a couple who have come out for a meal and a drink. Why should they be stopped from crossing the road?"


Why should they or anybody else be prevented from calling the service they want to get home, I would understand if it was fully pedestrianised but it isn't is it. Are the police suggesting that the taxi drivers are less dangerous than the private hire drivers?
Author:  captain cab [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:26 pm ]
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toots wrote:
Are the police suggesting that the taxi drivers are less dangerous than the private hire drivers?


You mean they aren't?
Author:  toots [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Minicab Drivers crying again
captain cab wrote:
toots wrote:
Are the police suggesting that the taxi drivers are less dangerous than the private hire drivers?


You mean they aren't?


Well it's usually a black cab that pulls a stupid dangerous u-turn in front of me, pulls out without looking but they do indicate oh yes and they stop suddenly on roundabouts to let others through, but, there aren't any indicators on the phvs here so I guess it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
Author:  blackpool [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:03 pm ]
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toots wrote:
captain cab wrote:
toots wrote:
Are the police suggesting that the taxi drivers are less dangerous than the private hire drivers?


You mean they aren't?


Well it's usually a black cab that pulls a stupid dangerous u-turn in front of me, pulls out without looking but they do indicate oh yes and they stop suddenly on roundabouts to let others through, but, there aren't any indicators on the phvs here so I guess it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

We done uturns cos we can :D
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:28 pm ]
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toots wrote:
Are the police suggesting that the taxi drivers are less dangerous than the private hire drivers?

If they are then they are mugs, and if that was suggested down here then it would be me calling them mugs to their faces.

Which is maybe why they don't. :wink:

The local trade should write to the Chief Constable, and I bet those slurs aren't repeated.
Author:  Nidge2 [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Minicab Drivers crying again
toots wrote:
Quote:
"Between midnight and 5am, there are thousands of people in that area and they are not all drunk. You could have a couple who have come out for a meal and a drink. Why should they be stopped from crossing the road?"


Why should they or anybody else be prevented from calling the service they want to get home, I would understand if it was fully pedestrianised but it isn't is it. Are the police suggesting that the taxi drivers are less dangerous than the private hire drivers?



I've been down there a few times to pick up, it's a Private Hire Gold Mine, they don't like it because they can't pirate fares from outside the pubs and clubs.

The Yellow cabs have now got uninterrupted access to the street where there's ranks for them to pick up.
Author:  toots [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Minicab Drivers crying again
Nidge2 wrote:
toots wrote:
Quote:
"Between midnight and 5am, there are thousands of people in that area and they are not all drunk. You could have a couple who have come out for a meal and a drink. Why should they be stopped from crossing the road?"


Why should they or anybody else be prevented from calling the service they want to get home, I would understand if it was fully pedestrianised but it isn't is it. Are the police suggesting that the taxi drivers are less dangerous than the private hire drivers?



I've been down there a few times to pick up, it's a Private Hire Gold Mine, they don't like it because they can't pirate fares from outside the pubs and clubs.

The Yellow cabs have now got uninterrupted access to the street where there's ranks for them to pick up.


I don't agree with pirating but I don't agree with unfair competition either.
Author:  captain cab [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Minicab Drivers crying again
toots wrote:

I don't agree with pirating but I don't agree with unfair competition either.


Like PHV's ranking outside pubs with false names supplied by offices?
Author:  toots [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Minicab Drivers crying again
captain cab wrote:
toots wrote:

I don't agree with pirating but I don't agree with unfair competition either.


Like PHV's ranking outside pubs with false names supplied by offices?


I think the term you're looking for are 'incorrect names' :lol:
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Minicab Drivers crying again
toots wrote:
captain cab wrote:
toots wrote:
I don't agree with pirating but I don't agree with unfair competition either.

Like PHV's ranking outside pubs with false names supplied by offices?

I think the term you're looking for are 'incorrect names' :lol:

It's not false or incorrect names. It's concocted, fictional, invented, fabricated, imaginary names.
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Minicab Drivers crying again
toots wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
I've been down there a few times to pick up, it's a Private Hire Gold Mine, they don't like it because they can't pirate fares from outside the pubs and clubs.

The Yellow cabs have now got uninterrupted access to the street where there's ranks for them to pick up.

I don't agree with pirating but I don't agree with unfair competition either.

And your definition of unfair competition and in what circumstances is?
Author:  toots [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:29 pm ]
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Brummie Cab wrote:
And your definition of unfair competition and in what circumstances is?


If customers call for a private hire to collect them access should be available if there is access to the hackneys to rank up.
Author:  Nidge2 [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Minicab Drivers crying again
[quote="toots"

I don't agree with pirating but I don't agree with unfair competition either.[/quote]


There's no unfair competition, it's a Hackney Carriage Zone only. They've done it in the interest of public safety.
Author:  toots [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Minicab Drivers crying again
Nidge2 wrote:
[quote="toots"

I don't agree with pirating but I don't agree with unfair competition either.



There's no unfair competition, it's a Hackney Carriage Zone only. They've done it in the interest of public safety.[/quote]

As I said earlier, are they suggesting that hackneys are safer drivers than private hire?
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