More reason for drivers to get CCTV.
Kids with power, backed up by the authorities on a mission, is not a good combination.
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| Author: | captain cab [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown The teenagers are looking for ‘inappropriate behaviour,' as part of a crackdown by Rochdale council after the conviction of nine men last year for offences such as rape and sexual activity with a child Teenagers are being asked to spy on taxi drivers in Rochdale in a bid to avoid a repeat of the child sex ring scandal. The young ‘mystery shoppers’ are being asked by council officials to catch taxi rides – in a bid to root out ‘inappropriate behaviour’ by potential sex abuser cabbies. It is part of a crackdown by Rochdale council on cab drivers and takeaway workers in the town following the conviction of nine men last year for offences including rape and sexual activity with a child. Two of the nine men convicted of exploiting girls as young as 13 – often plying them with drink and drugs before passing them round for sex – were taxi drivers, while another two worked in a takeaway. It is understood that licensing officials have been recruiting the teenagers from outside Rochdale – in a bid to ensure there are no recriminations for their participation in the scheme. The council stresses that the checks are not aimed at ‘entrapping’ cabbies but are to ensure they are complying with their licences – for example by displaying their badges clearly. Similar checks using teenagers are carried out at off-licences and newsagents that sell cigarettes to combat sales to under-age children. But the youngsters are also being asked to listen out for any ‘inappropriate behaviour or language’ used by cabbies and take-away workers – who could have their licences taken away and be reported to the police if they show predatory behaviour. The intelligence-gathering youngsters will pass on any concerns to the licensing authority who will work with the police on any further action. A report into failings at Rochdale council’s children’s department – whose chief executive has already resigned – is expected shortly after Easter. The town hall says that many improvements have already been put in place – and that they are even giving advice to other councils about keeping kids safe. Town halls including Oxford – where a child sex ring was exposed last year – are believed to be among those to have sought guidance. Rochdale council leader Colin Lambert said: “All aspects of the safety of adults and children will be explored within the borough and that includes ensuring the safety of those who use private hire or licensed taxis, food outlets or other premises. “Where we have evidence of inappropriate behaviour we will act on it. And it is essential that badges are displayed at all times – there is no excuse. “Rochdale has been at the forefront of rooting out abuse and exploitation of children and of course we have shared that good practice with other bodies. Everyone from the deputy children’s commissioner down has said this is not just a Rochdale issue, but a national issue.” http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... py-1945856 |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
More reason for drivers to get CCTV. Kids with power, backed up by the authorities on a mission, is not a good combination.
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| Author: | gusmac [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
Lets hope nothing actually happens to these kids that this council is potentially putting in harm's way. 
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| Author: | captain cab [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
gusmac wrote: Lets hope nothing actually happens to these kids that this council is potentially putting in harm's way.  something bizarre about a council trying to tempt people with kids - these people are sick in the head. |
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| Author: | sasha [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
During what % of journeys where children are being carried does the driver use inappropriate language or behaviour ? I would suspect very few. So how many 'test' journeys would have to be made before the LA caught just one driver - lots I again suspect. And if at the end of a test journey the driver has done nothing wrong does he still get paid ? I doubt the journeys would be short as a run of 2-3 miles would probably be needed to fully assess a driver, not much could happen if they only went 1/2 a mile, unless the driver had a serious problem. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
sasha wrote: During what % of journeys where children are being carried does the driver use inappropriate language or behaviour ? I would suspect very few. So how many 'test' journeys would have to be made before the LA caught just one driver - lots I again suspect. And if at the end of a test journey the driver has done nothing wrong does he still get paid ? I doubt the journeys would be short as a run of 2-3 miles would probably be needed to fully assess a driver, not much could happen if they only went 1/2 a mile, unless the driver had a serious problem. I would guess that most journeys will be with "targeted" drivers. I would also guess that where a journey passes without incident the driver will get paid without even knowing that he was being assessed. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
This is encouraging vigilante behaviour I was recently told by the local police that it is illegal to do things like offering rewards for information etc because it encourages vigilante behaviour is this that much different ? |
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| Author: | grandad [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
edders23 wrote: This is encouraging vigilante behaviour I was recently told by the local police that it is illegal to do things like offering rewards for information etc because it encourages vigilante behaviour is this that much different ? Rewards for information have been offered for years. Don't Derbyshire offer a grand for shopping drink drivers? |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
telepgraph has story http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... andal.html |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
grandad wrote: edders23 wrote: This is encouraging vigilante behaviour I was recently told by the local police that it is illegal to do things like offering rewards for information etc because it encourages vigilante behaviour is this that much different ? Rewards for information have been offered for years. Don't Derbyshire offer a grand for shopping drink drivers? I wanted to offer a reward for shopping a driver who wrote off my Zafira yesterday whilst it was parked up and didn't stop according to Lincolnshire police that is illegal !!!! |
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| Author: | grandad [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
edders23 wrote: grandad wrote: edders23 wrote: This is encouraging vigilante behaviour I was recently told by the local police that it is illegal to do things like offering rewards for information etc because it encourages vigilante behaviour is this that much different ? Rewards for information have been offered for years. Don't Derbyshire offer a grand for shopping drink drivers? I wanted to offer a reward for shopping a driver who wrote off my Zafira yesterday whilst it was parked up and didn't stop according to Lincolnshire police that is illegal !!!! It must be a Lincolnshire thing then because newspapers are often offering rewards for information leading to the conviction of criminals as well. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
grandad wrote: edders23 wrote: grandad wrote: I wanted to offer a reward for shopping a driver who wrote off my Zafira yesterday whilst it was parked up and didn't stop according to Lincolnshire police that is illegal !!!! It must be a Lincolnshire thing then because newspapers are often offering rewards for information leading to the conviction of criminals as well. I spoke at length to the FSB legal advice team and they say there is nothing illegal BUT the reward has to be offered THROUGH the police and if they refuse then all I can do is make a complaint to the IPCC |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
captain cab wrote: gusmac wrote: Lets hope nothing actually happens to these kids that this council is potentially putting in harm's way. something bizarre about a council trying to tempt people with kids - these people are sick in the head. What about the drivers who were abusing the kids in the first place? |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
Nidge2 wrote: What about the drivers who were abusing the kids in the first place? they were jailed like these two http://news.sky.com/story/1069896/choir ... -sex-abuse
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| Author: | Gobby [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kids spy on cabbies in sex-scandal crackdown |
Hate to think the effect this will have on the trade there. Parents reading this knee jerking $hit will be thinking "no smoke without fire" and lo the entire trades labelled as kiddie fiddlers...We have a bad enough press as it is! 
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