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Very interesting reading indeed, and they have got the right folk to do it.

It must have cost a fortune. :shock:

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/pcoassessment.pdf

The PCO is trying to justify the exclusion of vehicles that don't have the required turning circle, should TFL eventually decide to keep the current COF then there is only one way of testing this condition and that is through the courts.

Does anyone know when a decision is to be made about the COF?

Regards

JD

I spoke to our LTDA chaiman 2 weeks ago, his latest information from Roy ELLIS was that the decision was imminent.

JD wrote:

A decision ? Now theres a phrase not often associated with the PCO !

It was due out about a year ago, and then we have been told since the start of the year 'it will next month' then the month after and so on.

I spoke to our LTDA chaiman 2 weeks ago, his latest information from Roy ELLIS was that the decision was imminent.

I would'nt hold your breath.

I still believe it will come down to the chaps in wigs to eventualy get vehicles like the E7 licensed for London.

My fear is Allied are spending a lot of money on this, which may result in them giving up eventualy, or adding the price to the E7 resulting in a more expensive vehicle than LTI.

My fear is Allied are spending a lot of money on this, which may result in them giving up eventualy, or adding the price to the E7 resulting in a more expensive vehicle than LTI.

I wish they would hurry up and sort it all out.

Then the PCO will be able to review the lenght of the KOL.

Ollie

does anyone know why its taking so long to decide?

our council allow nearly any wav apart from that fiat doblo.
crazy thing is that still most of the lads go for the TX.

Intresting that the LTI product still reigns?

I also think the LTI dealer in Bexhill knows how to look after their customers, which maybe the London ones should take note of.

I'll have to move in as your new neighbour? Thats handy for Bexhill. Whats your BBQ skills like? :shock:

You and your sparring partner could apply then, if he's not too old to consider it?

Author:	Sussex [ Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:51 pm ]
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Very interesting reading indeed, and they have got the right folk to do it. It must have cost a fortune. http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/pcoassessment.pdf

Author:	JD [ Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:09 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: Very interesting reading indeed, and they have got the right folk to do it. It must have cost a fortune. http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/pcoassessment.pdf I have read up to page 5 so far and my opinion hasn't change from when I first read the PCO report. They tried to make a constructive case for not allowing other vehicles to compete with the incumbent vehicles that have been plying the streets of London and some other cities for years. They tried to make the report technical so it looked presentable but I've never read so much nonsense about Alternate Vehicles and the savings that might or might not happen, in my life. More to the point is what the hell has vehicle choice got to do with the PCO? The word is "competition" all the PCO need to worry about is does the vehicle that is being licensed meet the necessary requirements in law. The PCO is trying to justify the exclusion of vehicles that don't have the required turning circle, should TFL eventually decide to keep the current COF then there is only one way of testing this condition and that is through the courts. Does anyone know when a decision is to be made about the COF? Regards JD

Author:	Sussex [ Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:49 pm ]
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What I like about the report is that it makes the PCO and their reviews look at best flawed, and at worst just plain stupid. 10 out of 10 for Cab Direct, and for that matter any one else that has the balls to front up to daft and out of touch authority.

Author:	GBC [ Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:58 pm ]
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JD wrote: The PCO is trying to justify the exclusion of vehicles that don't have the required turning circle, should TFL eventually decide to keep the current COF then there is only one way of testing this condition and that is through the courts. Does anyone know when a decision is to be made about the COF? Regards JD A decision ? Now theres a phrase not often associated with the PCO ! It was due out about a year ago, and then we have been told since the start of the year 'it will next month' then the month after and so on. I spoke to our LTDA chaiman 2 weeks ago, his latest information from Roy ELLIS was that the decision was imminent. I would'nt hold your breath. I still believe it will come down to the chaps in wigs to eventualy get vehicles like the E7 licensed for London. My fear is Allied are spending a lot of money on this, which may result in them giving up eventualy, or adding the price to the E7 resulting in a more expensive vehicle than LTI.

Author:	TDO [ Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:08 pm ]
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greenbadgecabby wrote: I spoke to our LTDA chaiman 2 weeks ago, his latest information from Roy ELLIS was that the decision was imminent. Trouble is, when government departments say 'imminent', that often means a couple of years rather than a decade.

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Author:	JD [ Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:26 pm ]
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greenbadgecabby wrote: JD wrote: The PCO is trying to justify the exclusion of vehicles that don't have the required turning circle, should TFL eventually decide to keep the current COF then there is only one way of testing this condition and that is through the courts. Does anyone know when a decision is to be made about the COF? Regards JD A decision ? Now theres a phrase not often associated with the PCO ! It was due out about a year ago, and then we have been told since the start of the year 'it will next month' then the month after and so on. I spoke to our LTDA chaiman 2 weeks ago, his latest information from Roy ELLIS was that the decision was imminent. I would'nt hold your breath. I still believe it will come down to the chaps in wigs to eventualy get vehicles like the E7 licensed for London. My fear is Allied are spending a lot of money on this, which may result in them giving up eventualy, or adding the price to the E7 resulting in a more expensive vehicle than LTI. Thank you for that info GB. It seems to me the only thing they need to consider is if they are going to relax the cof and license vehicles without the presently required turning circle and outward opening doors. That seems simple enough to me unless someone can come up with any other reasons why they have to drag this decision out? Regards JD

Author:	Sussex [ Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:25 pm ]
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greenbadgecabby wrote: My fear is Allied are spending a lot of money on this, which may result in them giving up eventualy, or adding the price to the E7 resulting in a more expensive vehicle than LTI. I very much doubt that will happen, there is far too much at risk for that. The outcome of the PCO review is being awaited not just by you chaps in London, but by many more councils up and down the country. I believe there is millions of pounds worth of trade at stake, for the likes of Cab Direct and Jubilee, and I can't see them standing by and doing nothing if the PCO keep the mandatory turning circle.

Author:	Ollie [ Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:36 pm ]
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I wish they would hurry up and sort it all out. Then the PCO will be able to review the lenght of the KOL. Ollie

Author:	GBC [ Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:55 pm ]
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Ollie wrote: I wish they would hurry up and sort it all out. Then the PCO will be able to review the lenght of the KOL. Ollie You and your sparring partner could apply then, if he's not too old to consider it?

Author:	Guest [ Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:29 pm ]
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does anyone know why its taking so long to decide? our council allow nearly any wav apart from that fiat doblo. crazy thing is that still most of the lads go for the TX.

Author:	GBC [ Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:54 pm ]
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Cgull wrote: does anyone know why its taking so long to decide? our council allow nearly any wav apart from that fiat doblo. crazy thing is that still most of the lads go for the TX. Intresting that the LTI product still reigns? As for the decision, we are told this is due any time now, but they said that last year. . . . . .

Author:	Sussex [ Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:26 am ]
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greenbadgecabby wrote: Intresting that the LTI product still reigns? I think sometimes drivers just don't want to change, even if previous experiences aren't too clever. I also think the LTI dealer in Bexhill knows how to look after their customers, which maybe the London ones should take note of.

Author:	GBC [ Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:41 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: I also think the LTI dealer in Bexhill knows how to look after their customers, which maybe the London ones should take note of. I'll have to move in as your new neighbour? Thats handy for Bexhill. Whats your BBQ skills like?

Author:	Sussex [ Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:21 pm ]
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greenbadgecabby wrote: I'll have to move in as your new neighbour? Thats handy for Bexhill. Whats your BBQ skills like? I have no restriction on the number of burgers you may have, but there is a 3 year age limit.

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Author:	Ollie [ Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:12 pm ]
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greenbadgecabby wrote: You and your sparring partner could apply then, if he's not too old to consider it? Nothing is as old as some of the London cab. But why would I wish to join your trade when I get to choose the quality of customer that I want in my car? Still at least your lot are there for the ones we reject. Ollie