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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:46 am 
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Taxi drivers in Aberdeen 'refusing to take guide dogs in cabs'



Taxi drivers have been refusing to allow visually impaired customers take guide dogs into their vehicles, it has been claimed.

Aberdeen City Council's Taxi Consultation Group will meet on Tuesday June 4. The council's Licensing Committee convener, Fraser Forsyth, told STV he was concerned by reports that a number of cabbies have broken the rules by preventing disabled people with guide dogs from getting into their cars.

Cllr Forsyth said: "I am very disappointed to hear about these complaints from the Disability Advisory Group. There may be cases where drivers have exemptions, on medical grounds, but they should be the absolute exception.

"However, in any other cases, it is discrimination of the worst kind and I am sure the majority of taxi drivers in Aberdeen will be as annoyed by these stories as everybody else."

His words were echoed by North-East MSP Richard Baker, who told STV there should be no question of drivers banning guide dogs from cabs.

He added: "It is important that people with disabilities can have equal access to taxi services, particularly as they often rely on them a great deal and clearly taxi drivers should fulfil the terms of their license. I hope this issue will be discussed between those who have been affected, the appropriate authorities and taxi companies themselves."

The Taxi Consultation Group were alerted to the problem after receiving a letter from the Disabled Advisory Group last month.

This stated that members of DAG had "experienced several instances of taxi drivers refusing to take them to their destination, due to the fact they were accompanied by their guide dogs".

It went on: "Although both members pointed out that legislation requires taxis to transport passengers and their working dogs, unless the driver has a medical exemption, the drivers have refused, simply because they did not wish to have a dog in their cars.

"Our members have also had drivers tell them that they do not wish to have a dog sit on the leather seats of the car.

"The members have, of course, pointed out that any trained working dog would sit on the floor of the cars and not on the seats. However, the drivers concerned have still refused to transport them as a result."

Gordon Anderson, a spokesman for Aberdeen's independent taxi drivers, said he would be happy to discuss the matter at the Taxi Consultation Group.

Mr Anderson said: "It is not a widespread problem but one which needs to be addressed and anyone guilty needs to be challenged. It is some years since I have had to accommodate a guide dog, but it has never caused a problem. Indeed, dogs in general are rarely a problem.

"I usually insist that the dog sits in the front foot well which is large enough to accommodate most dogs and this prevents the risk of a dog fouling or ripping the seats with its claws.

"Guide dogs are placid, well-trained animals and never a problem. I understand that some drivers may have allergy problems, but this can be explained to the customer.

"The driver would, of course, have a certificate of exemption which, if not already, should be available in Braille for the customer to verify that the driver is not pulling a fast one. This is an issue I am happy to raise at the TCG meeting next Tuesday."

source: http://news.stv.tv/north/227275-aberdee ... iminatory/

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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 11:36 am 
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Personally, I blame Gusmac and the SNP. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Personally, I blame Gusmac and the SNP. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


never had complaints before they re regulated

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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:05 pm 
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TBH this is the first I've heard of it here.

I have never refused a guide dog, nor any other assistance dog. I've also never heard of anyone else doing it here.
Guide dogs are exceptionally well behaved, which is more than I can say for some of my two legged passengers. :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:29 pm 
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Now let me see.

Work's disappeared like snow off a dyke and brightboy dons are refusing work?

You don't have to be bright to be an Aberdonian it seems.

20 years and I've never had any dog foul, be sick, pash, or dig claws into upholstery.

Happened lots of times with humans ... but never a dog.

Grow up guys. The visually challenged have a hard enough gig as it is. Don't breach human decency by making it even harder.

After all. It could happen to any of us.

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TBH this is the first I've heard of it here.

I have never refused a guide dog, nor any other assistance dog. I've also never heard of anyone else doing it here.
Guide dogs are exceptionally well behaved, which is more than I can say for some of my two legged passengers. :lol:



I'm with you on that one. They might leave a little hair on the front of the seats but it's nothing a £2.00 lint roller from Sainsburys doesn't sort out in 1 minute.


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Taxi drivers in Aberdeen 'refusing to take guide dogs in cabs'



Taxi drivers have been refusing to allow visually impaired customers take guide dogs into their vehicles, it has been claimed.

Aberdeen City Council's Taxi Consultation Group will meet on Tuesday June 4. The council's Licensing Committee convener, Fraser Forsyth, told STV he was concerned by reports that a number of cabbies have broken the rules by preventing disabled people with guide dogs from getting into their cars.

Cllr Forsyth said: "I am very disappointed to hear about these complaints from the Disability Advisory Group. There may be cases where drivers have exemptions, on medical grounds, but they should be the absolute exception.

"However, in any other cases, it is discrimination of the worst kind and I am sure the majority of taxi drivers in Aberdeen will be as annoyed by these stories as everybody else."

His words were echoed by North-East MSP Richard Baker, who told STV there should be no question of drivers banning guide dogs from cabs.

He added: "It is important that people with disabilities can have equal access to taxi services, particularly as they often rely on them a great deal and clearly taxi drivers should fulfil the terms of their license. I hope this issue will be discussed between those who have been affected, the appropriate authorities and taxi companies themselves."

The Taxi Consultation Group were alerted to the problem after receiving a letter from the Disabled Advisory Group last month.

This stated that members of DAG had "experienced several instances of taxi drivers refusing to take them to their destination, due to the fact they were accompanied by their guide dogs".

It went on: "Although both members pointed out that legislation requires taxis to transport passengers and their working dogs, unless the driver has a medical exemption, the drivers have refused, simply because they did not wish to have a dog in their cars.

"Our members have also had drivers tell them that they do not wish to have a dog sit on the leather seats of the car.

"The members have, of course, pointed out that any trained working dog would sit on the floor of the cars and not on the seats. However, the drivers concerned have still refused to transport them as a result."

Gordon Anderson, a spokesman for Aberdeen's independent taxi drivers, said he would be happy to discuss the matter at the Taxi Consultation Group.

Mr Anderson said: "It is not a widespread problem but one which needs to be addressed and anyone guilty needs to be challenged. It is some years since I have had to accommodate a guide dog, but it has never caused a problem. Indeed, dogs in general are rarely a problem.

"I usually insist that the dog sits in the front foot well which is large enough to accommodate most dogs and this prevents the risk of a dog fouling or ripping the seats with its claws.

"Guide dogs are placid, well-trained animals and never a problem. I understand that some drivers may have allergy problems, but this can be explained to the customer.

"The driver would, of course, have a certificate of exemption which, if not already, should be available in Braille for the customer to verify that the driver is not pulling a fast one. This is an issue I am happy to raise at the TCG meeting next Tuesday."

source: http://news.stv.tv/north/227275-aberdee ... iminatory/



They need weeding out and their licenses revoking on the spot, no if's no buts "REVOKE IT".


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:48 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
Now let me see.

Work's disappeared like snow off a dyke and brightboy dons are refusing work?

You don't have to be bright to be an Aberdonian it seems.

20 years and I've never had any dog foul, be sick, pash, or dig claws into upholstery.

Happened lots of times with humans ... but never a dog.

Grow up guys. The visually challenged have a hard enough gig as it is. Don't breach human decency by making it even harder.

After all. It could happen to any of us.



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Anyone refusing Guide dogs is a no no and as for work dissapearing im Aberdeen ? How would you know?
Oh sorry i forgot,Jimbo knows everything .


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:29 am 
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stationloon wrote:
Jasbar wrote:
Now let me see.

Work's disappeared like snow off a dyke and brightboy dons are refusing work?

You don't have to be bright to be an Aberdonian it seems.

20 years and I've never had any dog foul, be sick, pash, or dig claws into upholstery.

Happened lots of times with humans ... but never a dog.

Grow up guys. The visually challenged have a hard enough gig as it is. Don't breach human decency by making it even harder.

After all. It could happen to any of us.



:roll:

Anyone refusing Guide dogs is a no no and as for work dissapearing im Aberdeen ? How would you know?
Oh sorry i forgot,Jimbo knows everything .


Well I know enough to know that Abdrdeen wanted to re-restrict becaus ethere wasn't enough work to go around.

Why don't you pay attention and put your brain in gear before engaging your gob!

FFS.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:42 pm 
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And why wasn't there enough work to go round in a derestricted market?

Too many cabs perhaps?


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LongshanksED wrote:
And why wasn't there enough work to go round in a derestricted market?

Too many cabs perhaps?


No, because the economy is fecked.

And derestriction isn't about having an adequate number of cabs to service the work. Market forces with quality controls is the most efficient way to match demand and supply.

Rather derestriction is about fairness, equality and drivers getting a fair shake, with customers not being herded like cattle to wait on the whim of the taxi trade to come and treat them like the cash cow they perceive them to be.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:20 pm 
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So Aberdeens economy, European oil capital of Europe that is screaming out for jobs, is fecked?


Aye, nice one Jim.


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Normally it's "muslim" drivers refusing dogs south of the border, so this time is it the northern ones or is it the indigenous aberdonians?


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187ums wrote:
Normally it's "muslim" drivers refusing dogs south of the border, so this time is it the northern ones or is it the indigenous aberdonians?


No idea.
We have drivers from many backgrounds, most are still Aberdonians but we have other Scots, other UK, some Europeans, Asians and Africans.
Still haven't heard of anyone refusing a guide dog, other than in this report. I'm not saying it's not true, but I don't think it's a huge problem.

The law is clear, you take a guide dog unless you have a certificate that says you are exempt. Same goes for any assistance dog and it applies to taxis and PH.
Refuse and you could find yourself being prosecuted and your badge revoked.

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187ums wrote:
Normally it's "muslim" drivers refusing dogs south of the border, so this time is it the northern ones or is it the indigenous aberdonians?


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