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Author:  Sussex [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Taxi boss defends Sunderland fare hike

Taxi boss defends Sunderland fare hike

Sunderland Hackney Carriage Operators’ Association (SHCOA) applied to the city council earlier this year to restructure the price of journeys at all three tariffs in operation, in one case a 6.9 per cent hike. The move came 12 months after the authority’s regulatory committee last agreed to a fare increase. Now, after being passed by Sunderland City Council and a period for objections to be heard, the changes have come into force.

Trevor Hines, chairman of SHCOA, said the price increases were regrettable, but inevitable as overheads for operators continued to soar. It is estimated that in some instances, premiums have gone up between 100 and 200 per cent.

“This is always an emotive subject, whether its fare rises concerning taxis, buses or trains,” he said. “But we just have no choice. “We’ve always been affected by any fuel prices, but insurance costs are hitting us the most. “They are going up and up and up. “It doesn’t matter if the driver has never made a claim, the price just keeps rising.”

The new price structure will see fares in tariff one, which covers Monday to Saturday between 7am and 11am, go up by an average of 4.7 per cent. For tariff two, on Sundays and weekdays from 11pm until 7am, the average cost of a journey will rise by 4.1 per cent. In tariff three, which applies across public and bank holidays, trips will cost, on average, 3.7 per cent more.

The biggest increase will be for journeys of 2.5 miles in tariff one, which will go up by 6.9 per cent. These is no change to journeys of about one mile. “The application was discussed and considered at length,” said Mr Hines. “We know, economically, this is a bad time for many people. We don’t have our heads buried in the sand. “This wasn’t a decision that was taken lightly.”

However, independent cabbies have set up an online petition, which has attracted more than 200 signatures, and also contacted the local government ombudsman to object against the rises. “We’re getting a lot of support,” said Kevin Stoker, who is spearheading the campaign. “The petition has gone well and we’ve contacted the ombudsman to formally object to the increases.

“Hopefully, they will overturn the decision. People are already struggling and the city centre is dying. “They can’t afford to go out on a Friday or Saturday. It’s like a ghost town.”

Mr Stoker said the increase has gone down “like a lead balloon” with passengers. “You can imagine what people are saying about it,” he said. “It wasn’t that long ago that fares went up, now they’ve gone up again. “I know a lot of drivers, like me, who don’t actually want the rise. “It just isn’t right.”

Author:  Sussex [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi boss defends Sunderland fare hike

Sussex wrote:
However, independent cabbies have set up an online petition, which has attracted more than 200 signatures, and also contacted the local government ombudsman to object against the rises. “We’re getting a lot of support,” said Kevin Stoker, who is spearheading the campaign. “The petition has gone well and we’ve contacted the ombudsman to formally object to the increases.

“Hopefully, they will overturn the decision. People are already struggling and the city centre is dying. “They can’t afford to go out on a Friday or Saturday. It’s like a ghost town.”

I'm assuming the council has passed the increase within the law, if so then the objection boat has sailed by.

However if the independents choose to go down the South Kestevens way (appeal over fares), then they are in for one very large shock at the end of it. :-s

What happened there was the council said 'f*** you then you set your own fares and deregulated fares/taxi numbers/standards/etc'.

Author:  jimbo [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi boss defends Sunderland fare hike

Sussex wrote:
Taxi boss defends Sunderland fare hike

Sunderland Hackney Carriage Operators’ Association (SHCOA) applied to the city council earlier this year to restructure the price of journeys at all three tariffs in operation, in one case a 6.9 per cent hike. The move came 12 months after the authority’s regulatory committee last agreed to a fare increase. Now, after being passed by Sunderland City Council and a period for objections to be heard, the changes have come into force.

Trevor Hines, chairman of SHCOA, said the price increases were regrettable, but inevitable as overheads for operators continued to soar. It is estimated that in some instances, premiums have gone up between 100 and 200 per cent.

“This is always an emotive subject, whether its fare rises concerning taxis, buses or trains,” he said. “But we just have no choice. “We’ve always been affected by any fuel prices, but insurance costs are hitting us the most. “They are going up and up and up. “It doesn’t matter if the driver has never made a claim, the price just keeps rising.”

The new price structure will see fares in tariff one, which covers Monday to Saturday between 7am and 11am, go up by an average of 4.7 per cent. For tariff two, on Sundays and weekdays from 11pm until 7am, the average cost of a journey will rise by 4.1 per cent. In tariff three, which applies across public and bank holidays, trips will cost, on average, 3.7 per cent more.

The biggest increase will be for journeys of 2.5 miles in tariff one, which will go up by 6.9 per cent. These is no change to journeys of about one mile. “The application was discussed and considered at length,” said Mr Hines. “We know, economically, this is a bad time for many people. We don’t have our heads buried in the sand. “This wasn’t a decision that was taken lightly.”

However, independent cabbies have set up an online petition, which has attracted more than 200 signatures, and also contacted the local government ombudsman to object against the rises. “We’re getting a lot of support,” said Kevin Stoker, who is spearheading the campaign. “The petition has gone well and we’ve contacted the ombudsman to formally object to the increases.

“Hopefully, they will overturn the decision. People are already struggling and the city centre is dying. “They can’t afford to go out on a Friday or Saturday. It’s like a ghost town.”

Mr Stoker said the increase has gone down “like a lead balloon” with passengers. “You can imagine what people are saying about it,” he said. “It wasn’t that long ago that fares went up, now they’ve gone up again. “I know a lot of drivers, like me, who don’t actually want the rise. “It just isn’t right.”



Great news for you, Mr Stoker. You don't want the increase, then you don't have to charge it. RESULT!

Author:  roythebus [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi boss defends Sunderland fare hike

My thoughts entirely.

Author:  Nidge2 [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi boss defends Sunderland fare hike

Sussex wrote:
However, independent cabbies have set up an online petition, which has attracted more than 200 signatures, and also contacted the local government ombudsman to object against the rises. “We’re getting a lot of support,” said Kevin Stoker, who is spearheading the campaign. “The petition has gone well and we’ve contacted the ombudsman to formally object to the increases.

Mr Stoker said the increase has gone down “like a lead balloon” with passengers. “You can imagine what people are saying about it,” he said. “It wasn’t that long ago that fares went up, now they’ve gone up again. “I know a lot of drivers, like me, who don’t actually want the rise. “It just isn’t right.”



I bet they aren't charging the new fare table?

Any driver who objects to a fare increase is a fool.

Author:  grandad [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi boss defends Sunderland fare hike

Sussex wrote:

However, independent cabbies have set up an online petition, which has attracted more than 200 signatures, and also contacted the local government ombudsman to object against the rises. “We’re getting a lot of support,” said Kevin Stoker, who is spearheading the campaign. “The petition has gone well and we’ve contacted the ombudsman to formally object to the increases.


Unless they have gone through the council's own complaints procedure the Ombudsman will not be interested. Even then, like in my case, the Ombudsman will probably not have the resources to even look into the situation.

Author:  edders23 [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi boss defends Sunderland fare hike

Sussex wrote:
Sussex wrote:
However, independent cabbies have set up an online petition, which has attracted more than 200 signatures, and also contacted the local government ombudsman to object against the rises. “We’re getting a lot of support,” said Kevin Stoker, who is spearheading the campaign. “The petition has gone well and we’ve contacted the ombudsman to formally object to the increases.

“Hopefully, they will overturn the decision. People are already struggling and the city centre is dying. “They can’t afford to go out on a Friday or Saturday. It’s like a ghost town.”

I'm assuming the council has passed the increase within the law, if so then the objection boat has sailed by.

However if the independents choose to go down the South Kestevens way (appeal over fares), then they are in for one very large shock at the end of it. :-s

What happened there was the council said 'f*** you then you set your own fares and deregulated fares/taxi numbers/standards/etc'.



Thats not quite how it happened the council took that course of action after losing a court case trying to prosecute a driver for overcharging on a job that went between two villages a few miles out of town followed by the possibility of more expensive court cases involving the proprietor of that firm who having won the first casr thought he was on a roll and the council caved in ! it is over 20 years ago now mind you so ancient history

Author:  grandad [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi boss defends Sunderland fare hike

edders23 wrote:


Thats not quite how it happened the council took that course of action after losing a court case trying to prosecute a driver for overcharging on a job that went between two villages a few miles out of town followed by the possibility of more expensive court cases involving the proprietor of that firm who having won the first casr thought he was on a roll and the council caved in ! it is over 20 years ago now mind you so ancient history

how did they lose that one? I don't suppose there is a link anywhere to the court case?

Author:  edders23 [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi boss defends Sunderland fare hike

I can't remember the details but it was to do with the 1897 act basically the pick up point was more than 3 miles from the main post Office where the taxis were licensed (GROTSVILLE) it was therefore deemed reasonable by the judge to put the meter on from a point just outside the the town to the pick up point which i believe was corby Glen which is about 12 miles from grotsville.

The council default tarriff includes the provision to charge up to £12.00 booking fee to cover such an eventuality which was introduced as a direct result of that court case

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