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Fury as taxi driver crackdown in Worcester pushed back
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Author:  captain cab [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:41 am ]
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Fury as taxi driver crackdown in Worcester pushed back to next year



FURIOUS taxi drivers are threatening to strike - after Worcester’s politicians were prevented from capping cab numbers in an extraordinary row with their own staff.

Amid farcical scenes at the Guildhall last night, a move to suspend new taxi driver licenses and restrict numbers has been pushed back into next year.

Despite an independent survey saying many of Worcester’s 311 taxis are constantly empty, drive around in circles waiting for passengers and park illegally due to a lack of rank space, council officers said a fresh consultation must be done before any crackdown can be introduced.

It was hotly disputed by politicians, who said they were “furious and speechless” about the stance.

It means no decision can be now made until the next licensing committee meeting in February.

The officers said the independent report was done before University of Worcester students arrived in September, potentially missing out 10,000 customers, and was only conducted over four days.

The licensing officers also said the Queen Street rank had been missed out of the survey, and that the independent survey "does not appear" to suggest what a suitable limit should be.

The council’s staff also said they feared a legal challenge from a would-be driver unless the authority did a consultation of its own, sparking fury among councillors and drivers.

As your Worcester News revealed on Monday, the taxi trade has spent £8,000 having the survey done in the hope of a cap.

Councillor Simon Cronin, speaking during a licensing committee meeting, said: “I am shaking my head in disbelief.

"I have sat on this committee for seven years, for that whole time the taxi trade has said the numbers are too high and there should be a limit, our officers have said 'you can't do that without this survey of unmet demand being done', and now it's been done at last, you say 'it doesn't take into account the Queen Street rank', well blow me, nobody uses it anyway.

"I am completely flabbergasted.

“We’ve finally got this survey done to put a cap on numbers and now we hear, after all these years, it’s not enough.

“I am astonished and pretty furious.”

During the debate politicians also said they feared a rush of applications from prospective drivers ahead of February, when it is hoped restrictions can finally apply.

Councillor Jabba Riaz added: “There certainly needs to be a suspension on new plating so we can work towards a cap, and there’s no question in my mind we can do it tonight.”

Councillor Paul Denham, licensing committee chairman, said Southampton, which is 2.5 times larger than Worcester, with a big football team and the busiest cruise port in the UK, has around the same number of taxis as the city.

He also said Lincoln, with a similar population to Worcester, has 35 hackney carriages, compared to 254 here (and 57 private hire cabs).

Oxford has a cap of 107 hackney carriages, despite having 50,000 more residents than Worcester.

Coun Denham said: "I don't think anything like 10,000 students will need or use the taxis anyway.

"To my mind, the figures are so out of kilter with other towns and cities, even if all the students were here when the survey was done, it wouldn't have made much difference."

But the suggestion was refuted by officers, who said the council needed “more evidence gathering” and “clear grounds” to cap a figure and avoid potential High Court challenges.

Ruth Mullen, corporate director for service delivery, said: “We would need to create a policy, then consult with the public over it before this can be done.”

Some councillors, including Tory Lucy Hodgson and Labour's Jo Hodges, backed the director's stance, saying the council should not do anything with risky complications.

Mrs Mullen said licensing laws would prevent the council from legally blocking any would-be drivers without that work taking place.

The committee agreed to ask officers to work on a new policy to restrict numbers and consult over it, with a view to a vote in February.

They also voted to remove a £50 fee for private hire cabbies and examine ways to create more rank space in the city.

Also, any new hackney carriage drivers from now on will need to buy a brand new vehicle, costing at least £17,000 - a tactic aimed to discourage applications.

The vehicle age limits for new private hire drivers have also been increased from three years to five years.

Finally, the committee agreed to increase taxi fares for hackney carriage vehicles to £3.50 for the first 1,208 metres (about three quarters of a mile) from 7am to midnight, and £4.50 outside of that time.

Those rises are nine and seven per cent respectively - 30p for each starting rate.

The costs once 1,208 metres have been travelled remain the same.

After the meeting some taxi drivers, who were present for last night's debate as well as a police officer, threatened to strike.

Mohammed Sajad, a hackney driver, said: “There’s nothing left for us to do but strike.

"We've had enough and are totally fed up with it. The only answer is a strike now."

source: http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/108 ... ar/?ref=nt
Author:  captain cab [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fury as taxi driver crackdown in Worcester pushed back
this place must surely be the most stupid in the UK
Author:  187ums [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fury as taxi driver crackdown in Worcester pushed back
Oxford has a cap of 107 hackney carriages, despite having 50,000 more residents than Worcesteor




Oxford is always in the headline these days, sadly Worcester just shows what really happens if you don't think through your "free for all" policy.

There will be more bad examples of poor taxi policy coming through soon, maybe the licensing officers are correct in what they say, Feb is only three months away, so it should be double Checked and everything will be ok.
Author:  grandad [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:02 am ]
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187ums wrote:
Oxford has a cap of 107 hackney carriages, despite having 50,000 more residents than Worcesteor




Oxford is always in the headline these days, sadly Worcester just shows what really happens if you don't think through your "free for all" policy.

There will be more bad examples of poor taxi policy coming through soon, maybe the licensing officers are correct in what they say, Feb is only three months away, so it should be double Checked and everything will be ok.

Maybe the people who were paid to do the survey should be asked why they didn't do the job correctly in the first place. Who decided to do the survey at the wrong time and also miss out a rank?
Author:  captain cab [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:31 am ]
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http://committee.cityofworcester.gov.uk ... 3265&Ver=4

http://committee.cityofworcester.gov.uk ... rt%202.pdf


The survey:

http://committee.cityofworcester.gov.uk ... y%20R4.pdf


June Meeting;


http://committee.cityofworcester.gov.uk ... 3264&Ver=4



http://committee.cityofworcester.gov.uk ... 5012&Opt=3


6. Consultation on Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Vehicle Licensing and Hackney Carriage Unmet Demand Survey pdf icon PDF 88 KB

1. For Members to consider the findings of the recent consultation in respect of age limits for both hackney carriage and private hire vehicles and the fees charged in respect of private hire operator licences.

2. In addition to consider a Hackney Carriage Unmet Demand survey commissioned by the Worcester Hackney Carriage Association.
Author:  Sussex [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:10 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
Coun Denham said: "I don't think anything like 10,000 students will need or use the taxis anyway.

And people actually voted for this brain surgeon? ](*,)
Author:  Sussex [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:20 pm ]
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Looking at the report it states that HCs work as PH.

So how will restricting HC help when they can't restrict PH?
Author:  captain cab [ Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:45 pm ]
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So lets get this clear;

The taxi trade paid for a survey that was carried out in a University City at a time when students were on holiday and which ignored certain ranks.

IMO the officers a right - the survey is wide open to challenge.
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:23 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
So lets get this clear;

The taxi trade paid for a survey that was carried out in a University City at a time when students were on holiday and which ignored certain ranks.

IMO the officers a right - the survey is wide open to challenge.

And doesn't best practise forbid SUD surveys being funded directly by the trade?
Author:  captain cab [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:22 pm ]
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No strike in Worcester as calls for cap on cabbies continue


Cab drivers are unhappy over rising numbers in WorcesterCab drivers are unhappy over rising numbers in Worcester

A BODY representing taxi drivers across Worcester has insisted a strike is not on the cards – but has hit out over failures to cap spiralling numbers of cabbies.

Worcester Taxi Drivers Association says it has no intention of agreeing to a walk out, despite calls last week from some in the trade. But Mohammed Ali, of the group, has attacked a three-month delay in creating a council policy for restricting numbers.

Last Wednesday, members of the city council’s licensing committee tried to suspend the issuing of new taxi driver licences after a survey showed there were too many in the city. But they were blocked by their own officers due to legal concerns.

The council’s officers also said the independent survey, paid for by the taxi trade, was done before University of Worcester students arrived in September, missing out 10,000 potential customers.

The association says it was done during freshers week, exactly when all the students had arrived in the city. Mr Ali said: “There will certainly not be any strikes. It has not been mentioned within the association at all, so it won’t be happening. We have called for a long time for a cap on numbers and we want to see it happen.”

Taxi driver Mohammed Sajad called for a strike last week, saying there is “nothing else left for drivers to do” following the committee meeting.

The committee wanted to either cap or restrict numbers, but was told by officers that the council needed to draw up a firm policy first and then consult the public over it.

The next meeting is scheduled in February, and by then the council hopes to have it in place.

As your Worcester News revealed on Friday, any hackney carriage drivers now need to buy a new vehicle, costing at least £17,000. This is aimed at discouraging any drivers from joining the trade.

source: http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/108 ... ap_needed/
Author:  toots [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:53 pm ]
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Quote:
As your Worcester News revealed on Friday, any hackney carriage drivers now need to buy a new vehicle, costing at least £17,000. This is aimed at discouraging any drivers from joining the trade.


Tut, tut a financial restriction. Far better to have higher driver standards imo.
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