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| Author: | bloodnock [ Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Death of the Tax Disk |
I'd bet a pound to a penny that this will end up costing as more and is not just an attempt to save the Government money...possibly even leading to an Increase in Fuel duty. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25223631 the tax disc to show motorists have paid vehicle excise duty is to be replaced with an electronic system, Chancellor George Osborne is to announce in his Autumn Statement. The disc was introduced in 1921 but officials say it is no longer needed with the DVLA and police now relying on an electronic register. The new system will allow people to pay the charge by monthly direct debit. The Treasury said it showed government was moving "into the modern age". It would also make "dealing with government more hassle free", a spokesman added. At present, motorists are able to choose whether they pay VED in twelve or six month instalments. Continue reading the main story Origin of car tax: Commons in 1888 Chancellor George Goschen: Apart from the Carriage Tax, which is a tax mainly on the more luxurious carriages - carriages, used for pleasure - there is at present no tax on any other vehicles, however much they may destroy the roads. We propose to put a duty of £1 a-year upon every vehicle exceeding 10 cwt. in weight, a very moderate limit to take. Members will acknowledge that the principle that all those who use the roads should pay for them, and should pay in some proportion to the wear and tear that they cause, is just. But I have not yet exhausted the subject. We propose, also, to put a very small Wheel Tax upon every vehicle. Colonel Nolan, MP for Galway North: Not on carts? Chancellor Goschen: Yes. We propose a duty of 2s. 6d. per wheel upon all carts over 2 cwt. Colonel Nolan: Oh! The latter option costs 10% extra each year, but this is expected to be cut to 5%. The new option of paying by monthly direct debit is also expected to cost 5% more than paying for a full year in one go. The changes are expected to come into effect in October 2014. In the 2012 Budget, the government announced its intention to bring in a direct debit system for paying VED and said it would seek the views of motoring groups on the merits of such a change. It also said it would "consider whether to reform VED over the medium term". On Twitter, presenter of BBC Radio 4's Money Box Paul Lewis wondered how prospective buyers of second-hand cars would know in future when the vehicle excise duty paid would expire. "How will people tell if [a] vehicle's been abandoned?" he added. After the demise of the paper disc, the Telegraph's Steve Hawkes said, enforcing the digital system would entail greater use of surveillance cameras. "More personal data lodged and presumably sold on then," he commented. Vehicle tax was introduced in the 1888 Budget and the system of excise duty applying specifically to motor vehicles was introduced with the Roads Act 1920, with the tax disc appearing the following year. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Death of the Tax Disk |
bloodnock wrote: After the demise of the paper disc, the Telegraph's Steve Hawkes said, enforcing the digital system would entail greater use of surveillance cameras. Or more simply....got a car? havent paid the tax?.....get a fine! simples computers will do more than any ANPR cameras |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Death of the Tax Disk |
wannabeeahack wrote: bloodnock wrote: After the demise of the paper disc, the Telegraph's Steve Hawkes said, enforcing the digital system would entail greater use of surveillance cameras. Or more simply....got a car? havent paid the tax?.....get a fine! simples computers will do more than any ANPR cameras Dunno..Hasnt stopped those with no Insurance yet, cant see why it would work for VED...offenders be harder to spot roadside. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Death of the Tax Disk |
bloodnock wrote: Dunno..Hasnt stopped those with no Insurance yet, cant see why it would work for VED...offenders be harder to spot roadside. |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Death of the Tax Disk |
grandad wrote: bloodnock wrote: Dunno..Hasnt stopped those with no Insurance yet, cant see why it would work for VED...offenders be harder to spot roadside. If that was your argument then there would not be a single Uninsured or MOT'less vehicle on Britains road..but there is, penty of them, and it'll be no different for VED dodgers...at least we the public can currently tell at a glance whether a car on our street is Taxed or not and if so inclined report it, but not after this move, the hardenerd tax dodger will blend in like a chameleon or until he has a bump. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Death of the Tax Disk |
bloodnock wrote: grandad wrote: bloodnock wrote: Dunno..Hasnt stopped those with no Insurance yet, cant see why it would work for VED...offenders be harder to spot roadside. If that was your argument then there would not be a single Uninsured or MOT'less vehicle on Britains road..but there is, penty of them, and it'll be no different for VED dodgers...at least we the public can currently tell at a glance whether a car on our street is Taxed or not and if so inclined report it, but not after this move, the hardenerd tax dodger will blend in like a chameleon or until he has a bump. The dvla database will have all the details and I often see them around here clamping vehicles that are not insured and are on the road. I am sure that they will be doing the same with the tax. The database will have the owner details for the vehicle and if it is taxed, mot'd and insured. They just drive around an area and look for the vehicles that flag up. |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Death of the Tax Disk |
It won't work it's to complex to set up. I bet within 2 years of them scrapping it the tax disc will be back. |
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